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Old 11-13-2014, 10:12 PM
 
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Its the Clinton faction and look for fire works in 2016 committee fight. But then many centralist where the ones who loss their seats this cycle ;so they will be madder than a hatter at progressive left. and itching for a fight as its said.
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Old 11-13-2014, 10:21 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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There are still centrist Democrats, there are no centrist republicans. There is always debate among Democrats, there is none among Republicans.

Heck Harry Reid is only majority leader now because Tom Daschle lost

The same cant be said of your party .....talked for 3 years about new leadership and unanimously voted Mitch majority leader.
Want to revisit that claim? Let's see what this graph says. Well, we are more partisan but that's something everyone knew. But who has more centrists. I see a bigger spike over there for the 'more liberal' category for the Democrats in the Senate. About even for the House. So, care to revise?

The Chasm in the Center of Congress - NationalJournal.com


And in case you're wondering about their criteria for determining this. Here you go.
How the Vote Ratings Are Calculated - NationalJournal.com
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Old 11-13-2014, 10:27 PM
 
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"Democratic centrists unhappy with how the Senate has functioned under Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) sought to delay a Thursday vote on keeping him as leader. At least four Democratic senators tried to postpone the secret-ballot vote on whether Reid should serve as minority leader next year, several Democratic lawmakers confirmed. 'I said I most certainly didn’t think we could go forward with business as usual as far as our caucus is concerned. That’s why I cast my vote against Sen. Reid and had urged the caucus to delay the vote for a week,' said Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.). More than half a dozen spoke on that topic.”

Dems sought to delay Reid vote | TheHill

I thought it was supposed to be the GOP with trouble in the ranks.

Elections have consequences. Republicans won and united behind their leadership. Senate Democrats lost and are in conflict.
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Old 11-13-2014, 10:27 PM
 
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There are still centrist Democrats, there are no centrist republicans. There is always debate among Democrats, there is none among Republicans.
Baaa HAAA <snort> haaa haaaa

Gruber had you pegged right.
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Old 11-13-2014, 10:32 PM
 
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Its the Clinton faction and look for fire works in 2016 committee fight. But then many centralist where the ones who loss their seats this cycle ;so they will be madder than a hatter at progressive left. and itching for a fight as its said.
Hillary is going to rip Obama to shreds.
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Old 11-13-2014, 10:38 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Baaa HAAA <snort> haaa haaaa

Gruber had you pegged right.
The fact that you guys are even acknowledging Gruber now is a failure on your part. You know have to acknowledge the Gruber wrote it, which means what he said about Romney care is true, which means it is based on the Heritage Foundation plan meaning it is a conservative idea that you turned your back on because Barack Obama is a Democrat.
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Old 11-13-2014, 10:41 PM
 
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The fact that you guys are even acknowledging Gruber now is a failure on your part. You know have to acknowledge the Gruber wrote it, which means what he said about Romney care is true, which means it is based on the Heritage Foundation plan meaning it is a conservative idea that you turned your back on because Barack Obama is a Democrat.
OMG. You're kidding right?
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Old 11-13-2014, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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The fact that you guys are even acknowledging Gruber now is a failure on your part. You know have to acknowledge the Gruber wrote it, which means what he said about Romney care is true, which means it is based on the Heritage Foundation plan meaning it is a conservative idea that you turned your back on because Barack Obama is a Democrat.
Which part? The part where Gruber said that the dirty secret of Romneycare was Ted Kennedy getting federal money to pay for it?

Let me find that quote...

New Audio: Gruber Said Ted Kennedy 'Ripped Off' Medicaid | The Daily Caller
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“We had a pretty powerful senator you may have heard of named Ted Kennedy,” Gruber said during an event at Simmons College in February. ”Ted Kennedy had managed to figure out a way to rip off the federal Medicaid program to the tune of about $500 million a year through a series of strange manipulations.
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Old 11-13-2014, 10:57 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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So sad to see how they "eat their own".
One big gulp
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Old 11-13-2014, 10:57 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Want to revisit that claim? Let's see what this graph says. Well, we are more partisan but that's something everyone knew. But who has more centrists. I see a bigger spike over there for the 'more liberal' category for the Democrats in the Senate. About even for the House. So, care to revise?

The Chasm in the Center of Congress - NationalJournal.com


And in case you're wondering about their criteria for determining this. Here you go.
How the Vote Ratings Are Calculated - NationalJournal.com
I dont have to revisit it, you didnt prove me wrong.

Your link calculates its values based on voting with the minority or majority.

If Democrats control the senate then Democrats have imput on what is brought to the floor to be voted on, so obviously they would vote for bills they helped draft.
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