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Wads of money is subjective though. People assume hubby and I are "rich", because yes he does make a great salary. But then I have to explain...But.. we pay ALL our own expenses just to keep working. I can explain it to most people by simply telling them... take your housing expenses (triple them... yes triple!) and double your transportation costs and add those to your monthly budgets. You see, we are at the mercy of the places we live. We do not go to Timbuktu by choice, we go out of necessity. And the places we go know this. Take for example last year in Texas. Just to park the RV was an additional 600.00 per month. A tad high, but not near like the 1400 per month in New York a couple of years ago. But... TX allows up-charging on electric. The RV park was paying .09 per KW hour but each month we had to pay .18 per KW per hour. Our bill was running an additional 500 per month just for electric... on an RV!! And we were lucky to find that spot, because when you bring in 800 families into a town all looking for a spot you take what you can get. Now let's talk about one of the local restaurants. We walked in when we got into town, sat down, ordered our burgers, fries and soft-drinks... not a problem. After the whole spread got there.. we walked into the same establishment two weeks later and were handed the "pipeline" menu. (And yes... it said this on the top of the menu!) The prices... had tripled. Folks see the line as a cash cow.. and they want the milk while we're there. And then of course... SAVE for lay-offs. So the Bakken folks are making good... but it all even's out in the long run. And we won't even go into the logistic's and nightmare's of living life on the road following the work....
During the Alaska pipeline project, there were many who went there, worked their shifts, kept a low profile, and returned at the the lower 48 at the end of their contract with enough money in their pockets to get married, buy a home, start a business, and start a family. The newspapers and magazines in the mid to late 70's were filled with such stories. I'm sure there were a vast many more who spent their earnings on the company supplied hookers or gambling or just drinking it away.
What I hope is that there are a few "old hands" around to advise the kids, just as there were in Alaska.
Getting approval through British Columbia has proven difficult.
And now the Energy East proposal has to contend with Quebec.
Meanwhile Warren Buffet's railroads are shipping the oil to wherever it is needed, including to California to feed our own starving refineries. Gas in my little town is now below 3 bucks a gallon
The House easily passed a measure on Friday authorizing construction of the Keystone XL pipeline, sending it on to the U.S. Senate where the issue is expected to come up for a vote next Tuesday.
Lawmakers voted 252 to 161 to approve the project. Thirty-one Democrats, including a handful who lost reelection last week, joined with all but one Republicans who voted."
Results and bipartisanship. That's what everyone wanted, that's what they got.
The ONLY reason this is going to a vote in the senate is Landrieu's last ditch pathetic effort to save her azz.
What amazes me is that folks consider "temporary construction jobs" not jobs. There's always another "temporary" job that comes along and has provided for us for 30+ years. The fact is that a true "pipeliner" is used to this. It is a way of life. They can't imagine a 9 to 5 desk job five days a week. They can't fathom being home every night. They also plan for the inevitable lay-off time. A job the size and scope of Keystone should provide nicely for the construction workers for about a year and a half. During construction and about six months after if they've planned their business accordingly. When we come off a job, we can set about six months usually without ever hitting a paycheck because we SAVE for the layoffs.
The average worker who actually builds the line should bring home a net of about 2 to 3 K per week. They should be able to save enough to get by till the next line comes along provided the next one isn't continually fought by the POTUS like this one has been.
Funny. When it comes to the building of professional sports stadia, the sports lobby does not consider this at all. Apparently the building of a mostly publicly pro sports venue is only about jobs, temporary or otherwise.
Meanwhile Warren Buffet's railroads are shipping the oil to wherever it is needed, including to California to feed our own starving refineries. Gas in my little town is now below 3 bucks a gallon
And those are US railroads operating on US soil employing US workers.
Beyond temp jobs, there's very little in KXL for US workers.
Well, it would create about 35 jobs ..... and, of course, a few billion for a small number of oil/refinery tycoons. Why wouldn't that pass the Senate? Being in the back pocket of industry tycoons is very bipartisan.
let's see, all construction jobs are temporary. Trades go to the hall and get a job that lasts from weeks to years. that is how real life works. A series of construction jobs for electricians, iron workers, pipefitters etc. Not the food service and seasonal jobs in Macy's that Obama counts to show a reduced unemployment rate
Whose pocket is who in? guess who now ships the oil by rail and is an obama supporter?
Shipping oil by rail is a higher risk tha by pipeline.
Federal agencies have cleared the pipeline. Environmental concerns were considered and found to be acceptable.
Obama falsely claimed the oil will not go to America and implied no economic gain. The oil will supply the world market and reduce oil costs worldwide which will punish Putin, reduce dependance on the middle east and save people the expense of the high energy costs Obama promised.
Obama also claime the oil would be burned elsewhere and add to pollution. Well the US sends batteries to china for recycling and poisoning the oceans, coal for China to burn, all pale in comparison to the oil form the pipeline.
Obama also said he would defer to the fedral agencies involved in reviewing the pipeline. How many positive conclusions are required? So now Obama goes back on his word???? what a surprise. Remember when Kerry told us earlier this year the State Dept study conclusion was about to be revealed in a month or so?
Why would one ship oil to the Gulf to ship to China? Wouldnt it be more cost effective to ship it to Seattle? Or Vancouver?I thought the whole idea of the pipeline was to get it to refineries, wherever they were located?
A lot of refineries in the US can't refine that sludge in the tar sands, maybe one or two on the east coast? The Bakken crude is the good stuff for the majority of US refiners.
Yet the propaganda has clearly worked on some of you posters.
Explain to me again how any of this helps the USA (except shareholders)... Canadian tarsands -> Asia
Temp jobs! Great for America! Suckers.....
TransCanada doesn't even care. Plan B is in effect, figuring the Energy East pipeline would cost just a "few bucks more" to pipe to the Canadian east coast and ship to Houston.
Their application weighed in @ 30,000 pages:
I thought it was to ship to the EU with Russia possibly cutting off their supply of LNG it would be smart to ship to the countries that need it esp. during Winter if anything the U.S. and Canada major investments and have interest from both Europe and Asia.
We should take full advantage of having something we both a massive boom and g and have a huge glut to unload to countries that will pay prices and invest in both our economies.
Historically price differences between Brent and other index crudes have been based on physical differences in crude oil specifications and short-term variations in supply and demand. Prior to September 2010, there existed a typical price difference per barrel of between ±3 USD/bbl compared to WTI and OPEC Basket; however, since the autumn of 2010 Brent has been priced much higher than WTI, reaching a difference of more than $11 a barrel by the end of February 2011 (WTI: 104 USD/bbl, LCO: 116 USD/bbl).
In February 2011 the divergence reached $16 during a supply glut, record stockpiles, at Cushing, Oklahoma before peaking at above $23 in August 2012. It has since (September 2012) decreased significantly to around $18 after refinery maintenance settled down and supply issues eased slightly.
Many reasons have been given for this widening divergence ranging from a speculative change away from WTI trading (although not supported by trading volumes), Dollar currency movements, regional demand variations, and even politics.
The US Energy Information Administration attributes the price spread between WTI and Brent to an oversupply of crude oil in the interior of North America (WTI price is set at Cushing, Oklahoma) caused by rapidly increasing oil production from Canadian oil sands and tight oil formations such as the Bakken Formation, Niobrara Formation, and Eagle Ford Formation.
Oil production in the interior of North America has exceeded the capacity of pipelines to carry it to markets on the Gulf Coast and east coast of North America; as a result, the oil price on the US and Canadian east coast and parts of the US Gulf Coast since 2011 has been set by the price of Brent Crude, while markets in the interior still follow the WTI price. Much US and Canadian crude oil from the interior is now shipped to the coast by railroad, which is much more expensive than pipeline.[SIZE=2][7[/SIZE]
Not sure how important it is for the 2016 election, but as a campaign point, does this add juice to the democrats?
Nope if anything it hurts them which is why I'm stunned they are trying this. My only thought is that a jobs bill out weights the blow back they will get from environmental whack jobs. At least right now. It does go to show you how liberals will flip to suit the situation hoping low information voters forget.
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