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Old 11-16-2014, 04:06 PM
 
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Health Insurance Coverage and Mortality Revisited

According to this August 2009 link, some studies suggest that 18,000 - 22,000 Americans die a year because of lack of health insurance. But the author of the article also says the methodology of those studies is poor and that, really, health insurance doesn't have a large effect in saving people's lives.

Health insurance and mortality in US adults. - PubMed - NCBI
But this December 2009 link says that uninsured people are more likely to die, and pegs the number of yearly dead at 45,000.

So what do you think? Does health insurance save lives? And if so, does it matter?

 
Old 11-16-2014, 04:08 PM
 
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Yes. It is good to know if I have a serious condition before I end up in critical condition in the Emergency Room. I should probably be able to see a doctor some day...
 
Old 11-16-2014, 04:11 PM
 
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No, health insurance does not save lives. Insurance pays the bills for medical care which under emergency conditions should be available to all. Some with chronic illness may survive without health insurance, some will not. Some with insurance will survive, some will not.

Insurance is not a guarantee of anything.
 
Old 11-16-2014, 05:34 PM
 
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Health Insurance Coverage and Mortality Revisited

According to this August 2009 link, some studies suggest that 18,000 - 22,000 Americans die a year because of lack of health insurance.
Someone please explain how a few sheets of paper in a file drawer save your life.

What saves your life is doctors, nurses, EMT's, lab techs, paramedics, pharmaceuticals, researchers, etc.

Insurance plays NO role in any of those.
 
Old 11-16-2014, 05:45 PM
 
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Someone please explain how a few sheets of paper in a file drawer save your life.

What saves your life is doctors, nurses, EMT's, lab techs, paramedics, pharmaceuticals, researchers, etc.

Insurance plays NO role in any of those.
Insurance pays for all that (or should). The local emergency room won't treat you for cancer, osteoporosis, or kidney disease.
 
Old 11-16-2014, 05:54 PM
 
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Someone please explain how a few sheets of paper in a file drawer save your life.

What saves your life is doctors, nurses, EMT's, lab techs, paramedics, pharmaceuticals, researchers, etc.

Insurance plays NO role in any of those.
You may want to read this excellent article...

A Galveston Med Student Describes Life and Death in the "Safety Net"

Those "few sheets of paper in a file drawer" lets you though the hospital financial screening process. And that can save your life.
 
Old 11-16-2014, 05:55 PM
 
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Of course it saves lives. People who do not have insurance do not get a lot of preventative care such as annual physical exams, cancer screenings and do not go to the doctor until any disease they may have is at a critical stage, and the care becomes even more expensive or is paid for by those with insurance using the emergency room. Why? Duh--because it costs a lot of money. Using the emergency room for medical care basically raises the costs for everyone with health insurance and definitely increases the chances of dying.

This is basically common sense.

Health Insurance and Mortality in US Adults
 
Old 11-16-2014, 05:56 PM
 
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Insurance pays for all that (or should). The local emergency room won't treat you for cancer, osteoporosis, or kidney disease.
Nor will some insurance. Having that insurance is not a guarantee of treatment. Ask any family who has lost some one through lack of facility, regardless of wealth - real or not. Or just wait until old age and your 'Death Panel' interview... 'Hi, we're from the government and we're here to help'
 
Old 11-16-2014, 06:26 PM
 
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Insurance pays for all that (or should). The local emergency room won't treat you for cancer, osteoporosis, or kidney disease.
Can you read?


Someone please explain how a few sheets of paper in a file drawer save your life.

What saves your life is doctors, nurses, EMT's, lab techs, paramedics, pharmaceuticals, researchers, etc.


Insurance does not "pay" for these things. YOU pay for these things. Insurance is a FINANCIAL product, not health care.

Again, nobody EVER died from a lack of insurance. Ever.
 
Old 11-16-2014, 06:27 PM
 
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Of course it saves lives. People who do not have insurance do not get a lot of preventative care such as annual physical exams, cancer screenings and do not go to the doctor until any disease they may have is at a critical stage, and the care becomes even more expensive or is paid for by those with insurance using the emergency room. Why? Duh--because it costs a lot of money. Using the emergency room for medical care basically raises the costs for everyone with health insurance and definitely increases the chances of dying.

This is basically common sense.

Health Insurance and Mortality in US Adults
No, it's not sensible, rational, or even faintly reasonable.

It's total stupidity.
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