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Originally Posted by luzianne
Were criminal charges actually filed? Or just criminal complaints made and no charges filed? If no charges were filed, why not? Because there wasn't enough evidence? If charges were filed, why didn't it result in his arrest? Not enough evidence?
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That's what I'm asking.
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Originally Posted by luzianne
If charges were filed and then women settled out of court, that tells me they were interested in money, not justice and not getting a rapist off the streets.
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It is not possible for an out-of-court settlement in a criminal case. That's only possible in civil law.
In criminal law, a "settlement" is a plea [bargain] agreement.
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Originally Posted by Goodnight
Looking at that both ways if there was no merit why did Cosby settle, it was already out in the media.
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For those people who don't have legal minds or experience with the legal system, settlements are a function of Opportunity Costs.
You can spend $5 Million on legal fees in an attempt to prove a negative, or you can write a check for $150,000 and be done with it.
Before some non-start starts flapping about "loser pays" not all States have such a statute. Remember that this is a federal republic and States are allowed to be different, even though it aggravates the hell out the control-freak Liberals.
Even for those States that do, you need to read the statute carefully, and examine the associated case law. The laws are not the same for each State, because you know, this is a federal and States are allowed to be different, even though it aggravates the hell out the control-freak Liberals.
Those of you familiar with a
Notice Of Motion And Motion For Attorney’s Fees And Reimbursement Of Expenses know that opposing counsel can file objections. Your attorney might charge $650/hour but the judge only allows $450/hour.
You're stuck footing the rest of the bill.
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Originally Posted by Goodnight
Rape has been a very difficult case to convict, look at all the present day rape and assault in the military, college campuses but that is changing.
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Speaking as one who investigated rapes and interrogated subjects, it is not difficult.
The data is worthless. You should know that. Suppose the FBI's quarterly UCR shows 14,332 rapes in the US.
How many rapes were committed?
The correct answer to that question is:
Unknown, since the data does not permit any conclusions to be drawn.
RIF = Reading Is Fundamental.
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Reported" does not equal "
Committed." The UCR is raw data on crimes reported, not crimes investigated, founded, prosecuted or convicted, or adjudicated in any way.
So, 14,332 rapes are reported and then reality takes over and a few thousand were false reports, in another few hundred, the happy couple kissed and made up, or the complaint was withdrawn for whatever reason, or it wasn't rape, but it was sexual battery or sexual assault, or another lesser sex offense, and then of the remaining rapes, a number are statutory, and since this is a federal republic and States are allowed to be different, even though it aggravates the hell out the control-freak Liberals, the ages of statutory rape may be 15, 16 or 17 (and I think there's still a few with 14 years). The "victim" is not pushing the statutory rape, rather it's the "victim's" parents who hate her 18 year old boyfriend.
And still, no convictions. So assuming these actually go to trial and there is a conviction, those numbers are far less than what is reported (but don't forget to take into account plea bargains for lesser sex offenses).
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Originally Posted by Goodnight
Someone brining a rape case against a figure like Cosby in the 70's, 80's would not have went well for the accuser.
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Perhaps not the 70s, but in the 80s, yes.
The most important thing for a rape victim is to report to the police immediately. I can understand not wanting to go to the police -- especially pre-1970s -- but there's no excuse not to go to an emergency room.
Granted, pre-1970s, cops were boorish pigs and for a rape victim, going to the police was like being re-raped (multiple times). Cops would make victims disrobe, the cops would take photos and then pass them around like a
Hustler magazine. Yes, that's true, there are a number of document cases.
In some respects, I think it is well-earned/deserved. You wanted unionized police...you got 'em.
Instead of those ass-clown cops scrubbing skid-marks to eke out a living for the rest of their lives, they're bleeding you dry with their big fat pensions.
How's those union benefits working out for everyone?
I think the people of Ferguson (City of) will be asking that soon enough.
I have an issue with the MO. Drugging women to rape them was an epidemic in the early 1990s.
I'm not seeing Cosby drugging and raping women in the 1960s-70s or even the 1980s.
I have a problem with "repressed memories" and witness testimony anyway.
Americans are almost unique in their susceptibility of media-induced hysteria.
Think NDEs. No one knew anything about it, until it surfaced on few TV shows like Unexplained Mysteries. Next thing you know, it's damn near epidemic proportions, yet what do you hear now? Nothing.
Alien abduction. That's another. Couple of nutters are interviewed on TV, and suddenly everyone is being abducted, but what about now? Nothing.
Let's face it....the majority of Americans are dysfunctional and emotionally ill.
I'm all for automatic gag-orders on criminal and civil matters.
This business of trying people in the media is differently twisted and perverted, and it does not serve justice or further the ends of justice.
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Originally Posted by Goodnight
I also recall the paternity suit against Cosby back in the 90's where he refused to take a DNA test, nothing to do with this issue but sure relevant to his integrity.
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It has no bearing on his integrity.
Signed...
Basketball Jones
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