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He banned Federal dollars for research into stem cells. Private labs and universities were free to conduct research and doctors use them in procedures all the time.
I did not agree with Bush's move but I also will not pretend it was something more than it was.
it wasn't even as bad as that. the fed continued to fund stem cell research as long as it was done with embryonic stem cells already in existence.
we had oodles of threads on this back in the day.
as to the topic, here's how bammers felt about EE's in 2008:
"I taught constitutional law for ten years. I take the constitution very seriously. The biggest problem that we’re facing right now has to do with George Bush trying to bring more and more power into the executive branch and not go through Congress at all, and that’s what I intend to reverse when I’m president of the United States of America. (Sen. Obama at a Townhall in Lancaster, PA, March 31, 2008).
it wasn't even as bad as that. the fed continued to fund stem cell research as long as it was done with embryonic stem cells already in existence.
we had oodles of threads on this back in the day.
as to the topic, here's how bammers felt about EE's in 2008:
"I taught constitutional law for ten years. I take the constitution very seriously. The biggest problem that we’re facing right now has to do with George Bush trying to bring more and more power into the executive branch and not go through Congress at all, and that’s what I intend to reverse when I’m president of the United States of America. (Sen. Obama at a Townhall in Lancaster, PA, March 31, 2008).
Wow. Another lie from "Dear Leader." Imagine that.
it wasn't even as bad as that. the fed continued to fund stem cell research as long as it was done with embryonic stem cells already in existence.
we had oodles of threads on this back in the day.
as to the topic, here's how bammers felt about EE's in 2008:
"I taught constitutional law for ten years. I take the constitution very seriously. The biggest problem that we’re facing right now has to do with George Bush trying to bring more and more power into the executive branch and not go through Congress at all, and that’s what I intend to reverse when I’m president of the United States of America. (Sen. Obama at a Townhall in Lancaster, PA, March 31, 2008).
Again, quality of the action, not just quantity. In this case, the quality of the EO of each, revolves around the quality and timing of the EOs.
From your linked ABC News, AP syndicate article. Apples and apples, not that other orange fruit.
This President has demonstrated disdain for our Constitutional Republic system of government, time and time again. Note, I am not necessarily saying unconstituional, rather he has skirted around the edges - gamed the system if you will. He has set a different tone for the political environment - with the ACA crafting, selling and Machiavellian passage as prime exhibits.
Of course, he has been opposed, from before he took office. Because, his blatant lies were and are transparent for anyone paying attention to the substance, and not the admittedly soaring and inspirational rhetoric.
Sooooo... You think amnesty for some undocumented aliens is bigger than invading Iraq without permission? Seriously?
Oooookayyyyy.
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I said nothing about amnesty, which is really not what my comments were about.- if the news reports today mirror what Mr Obama will say and do. Nor, did my comments have to do with a particular President, or particular war. Yes, I used quotes that referenced a couple of other Presidents, but they came from your link article and used to show ten of something does is not equivalent to ten of something else.
Frankly, I am surprised, given you are a moderator, at your response. I do understand you are not commenting as a mod. Nonetheless, your response is unbecoming for someone who is entrusted to be even handed.
Not knowing how many EOs this or any other President has issued, I became curious. Looked at wikipedia as a quick resource and was surprised, yet wondered. Just what are all of the EOs about, or doing. So, alluding only to numbers struck me as a quick and easy retort. Not a necessarily accurate response. Focus on the EO portion of my comments. The rest is my personal view of why I think this President's EOs are drawing so much fire. I could be wrong, or I could be right in that judgement.
You assume, way to much in my initial reply to you. Look again at my response, read the words. Do not interpret from your viewpoint. I think you will reach a different conclusion about what I said about EOs, also about how you responded.
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Sooooo... You think amnesty for some undocumented aliens is bigger than invading Iraq without permission? Seriously?
I do not admire it, because I think the 'in your face America' approach is proving devisive. Leadership is about listening, having a vision, can be strong, bold, decisive, without being in your face. In your face shows a disdain for what the other thinks. "I'll show you!" is another way of saying in your face.
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The problem with the GOP is they never go big like Obama has done. I don't like what Obama has done but I admire his "in your face America" attitude. It's his way and that's it. I wish we got a GOP President that would do the same with the size, scope and spending of the federal government.
Scroll down to the part about illegal immigration and you will find President Reagan laying the groundwork for his executive order a few years later:
"But it is true our borders are out of control. It is also true that this has been a situation on our borders back through a number of administrations. And I supported this bill. I believe in the idea of amnesty for those who have put down roots and who have lived here even though sometime back they may have entered illegally".
Note that we do not really know what President Obama is announcing tonight. If what I have read is true, it is not amnesty for illegals, but a delay in deportation proceedures for those illegals of US citizens (or those legally here) such as parents.
Scroll down to the part about illegal immigration and you will find President Reagan laying the groundwork for his executive order a few years later:
"But it is true our borders are out of control. It is also true that this has been a situation on our borders back through a number of administrations. And I supported this bill. I believe in the idea of amnesty for those who have put down roots and who have lived here even though sometime back they may have entered illegally".
Note that we do not really know what President Obama is announcing tonight. If what I have read is true, it is not amnesty for illegals, but a delay in deportation proceedures for those illegals of US citizens (or those legally here) such as parents.
Reagan signed a piece of legislation passed by congress granting anmesty to 3 million illegals. The Simpson-Mazzoli Act.
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