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No, but if you have been using a fake SS number to pay in, then how are you going to collect, when the money you paid in is not linked to you? The government is receiving a lot of payments which cannot be linked to valid tax payers.
With SSI and PRUCOL an illegal alien does not need an SS number to collect.
That is what PRUCOL is all about.
https://secure.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0500501420
PRUCOL applies to individuals who are neither U.S. citizens nor aliens lawfully admitted for permanent residence; i.e., aliens who entered the United States (U.S.) either:
Lawfully in a status other than lawful permanent residence; or
Unlawfully.
With SSI and PRUCOL an illegal alien does not need an SS number to collect.
That is what PRUCOL is all about.
https://secure.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0500501420
PRUCOL applies to individuals who are neither U.S. citizens nor aliens lawfully admitted for permanent residence; i.e., aliens who entered the United States (U.S.) either:
Lawfully in a status other than lawful permanent residence; or
Unlawfully.
How do they collect if they do not have an SS number? The benefits are tied to the number.
How do they collect if they do not have an SS number? The benefits are tied to the number.
Let's stop being backassward about this.
If they had waited to come in legally, they'd have a legitimate green card, and full access to the legal benefits of citizenship.
Why are we arguing about law breaking foreigners ability to collect money from a system they have no respect for in the first place? Why would you defend their ability to?
Maybe people like you should go to Mexico illegally and see how they treat you, huh?
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Well, if there are 11 million illegals in the US, and this deportation halt concerns about 40% of them, then the rest can still be booted.
The figures this administration is using are all bogus. Like the lie that they are deporting more illegals than ever... then we find out they are including turn away's and wet feet, people who never made it into the country.
EVERY FIGURE this administration use, whether it's the debt, spending, unemployment, jobs, ACA, illegals... is all smoke and mirrors accounting.
If they had waited to come in legally, they'd have a legitimate green card, and full access to the legal benefits of citizenship.
Why are we arguing about law breaking foreigners ability to collect money from a system they have no respect for in the first place? Why would you defend their ability to?......
Exactly. If they are paying in as illegals and cannot collect, that's good enough for them.
If they had waited to come in legally, they'd have a legitimate green card, and full access to the legal benefits of citizenship.
Why are we arguing about law breaking foreigners ability to collect money from a system they have no respect for in the first place? Why would you defend their ability to?
Not arguing, nor defending. As a matter of fact I specifically said they can leave if they are not happy with not being able to collect it.
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Maybe people like you should go to Mexico illegally and see how they treat you,
huh?
Nah, you go.
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The figures this administration is using are all bogus..
Not arguing, nor defending. As a matter of fact I specifically said they can leave if they are not happy with not being able to collect it.
Nah, you go.
Oh, ok. What is the actual figure?
No one knows. The 11 million we've been hearing for over 10 years is an estimate at best.
No other group in the history of mankind has stayed at a static demographic number (11 million) for over a decade except our US illegals.
"Presently, to obtain employment based visas from USCIS it is necessary to apply to the US Labor of Department to test the market (in the state) and offer the intended employment position to the alien and all suitable American workers. Following the President's wishes, a work permit will be granted to allow an undocumented worker to continue in his/her same employment. Under the present system, if the alien is already employed in the intended employment position, it is a per se employment law violation.
And, of course, it follows that for the millions of reprieves that are granted, the same number of American workers are excluded from that employment with no market test
Implicit in President Obama's intent to issue temporary reprieves is the realization that the undocumentedworkers have violated federal and state employment laws by working in the US without authorization. So the reprieves are, in substance, attempted pardons to presently unknown violators with no federal supremacy, or they are administrative benefits treating a class of undocumented workers unequally."
Bachmann said on-air recently that her plan is to “frame the debate so that we fight about the president’s unconstitutional power grab on issuing work permits, despite what the president says. It is an illegal action, and he cannot do it. [She said] We would win on that fight, and we would win on that argument.”
So Bachmann is saying that its not an immigration issue, its a labor law issue. She is correct. Before USDHS, USCIS (the re-named INS) can act, the labor department has first to agree. I believe the federal government doesn't have supremacy in this area.
Believe it or not, an employers who want to hire an alien in a town or city has to test the market by advertising the job locally, and interviewing everyone who responds, and then that employerself reports (his word of honor) that he made a legitimate attempt to hire American. You know, those guys never seem to find any suitable American worker qualified. Go figure.
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