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Nah, the US belongs to the companies that hire and benefit from cheap illegal labor, they just pay the politicians to take the blame.
Thank you.
ALL these so called "economists" who say that illegal immigrants (especially the low skilled ones) are creating jobs and benefit the economy are perhaps paid by cheap labor lobby.
They argue that illegals are essential because there are not enough Americans to fill all the low wage jobs. But if this were so, then the wages and employment rates of such workers should be rising as employers try harder to retain and attract workers. Yet quantitative evidence for such a phenomenon does NOT exist.
The only evidence of a labor shortage comes from the employers.
This didn't happen over night and at this point there is no simple solution, there was no easy way out in the 80's when they granted amnesty to a few million. It's become a very complicated issue over the last decade because of lack of reform, and we cannot deport that many immigrants.
Do they have a plan or alternative or do they just want to whine on the capitol steps.
For starters you enforce the laws we have instead of policy that will encourage even more people to break them.
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Other than putting up a bigger wall what is their plan to address the 12 million illegal immigrants already here, lacking that answer they don't really have a solution.
Other than encouraging more people to come here illegally what is Obama's plan?
This didn't happen over night and at this point there is no simple solution, there was no easy way out in the 80's when they granted amnesty to a few million.
Amnesty in the 80's had support because it came with the stipulation that we would begin enforcing immigration law. That didn't happen.
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Nah, the US belongs to the companies that hire and benefit from cheap illegal labor, they just pay the politicians to take the blame.
Exactly..no politician cares about the illegals..the big biz sponsors care and they own the politicians.
If they used the laws on the books,arrested the employers,CEOs,managers etc etc and gave them the maximum time in jail and maximum fines it would take but a few weeks of that and the illegals would start self deporting..very,very simple.
Can you imagine watching the feds raid the corporate offices of Wal Mart,Tyson et al and dragging their ceo's asses out to a black van in handcuffs? I would watch it on pay per view
This didn't happen over night and at this point there is no simple solution, there was no easy way out in the 80's when they granted amnesty to a few million. It's become a very complicated issue over the last decade because of lack of reform, and we cannot deport that many immigrants.
There is a very simple solution.
Enforce the employer sanctions that are the law!
Seizure of all business assets and personal assets of the owner / CEO.
You would see MASSIVE self deportation! No split up families, no one loses their crap.
If you find yourself agreeing with Ms. Bachmann, then you may want to reconsider your thought process. No reasonable person can view Mr. Obama's speech as providing 'amnesty', or that he (or future presidents) will look back at last night as forming a basis for 'marital' law (did you mean martial?).
Well, I suppose the arguement could be made that we have had some changes of late in marital law. Yes, my fat fingers/auto-correct combo did mean martial.
That aside, it is that old slippery slope argument. People like to dismiss it, but it is very real. Every time we give up a right or a protection the goal post gets moved a little closer to tyranny. There are many things in place to help prevent some dictator from taking over this nation, the separation of powers is a very important measure. In the last 6 years we have heard a lot of "But Bush did it first" by this administration and its defenders as justification for unpopular and previously thought untenable dictates. What makes you think "But Obama did it when he...." won't be used by some future president, who wants to enact policies you don't agree with, as a reason to not follow some law the congressman you elected legislated to protect you?
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If you find yourself agreeing with Ms. Bachmann, then you may want to reconsider your thought process. No reasonable person can view Mr. Obama's speech as providing 'amnesty', or that he (or future presidents) will look back at last night as forming a basis for 'marital' law (did you mean martial?).
well, ALMOST every legal scholar on the Left and the Right agree his actions are absolutely legal. That being said, because one has the power is not a grant to indiscriminately use that power. No one begrudges any president using their executive authority in times of emergency, but no such “emergency” requiring immediate presidential action was required here. That should be the message going forward. No?
Exactly..no politician cares about the illegals..the big biz sponsors care and they own the politicians.
If they used the laws on the books,arrested the employers,CEOs,managers etc etc and gave them the maximum time in jail and maximum fines it would take but a few weeks of that and the illegals would start self deporting..very,very simple.
Can you imagine watching the feds raid the corporate offices of Wal Mart,Tyson et al and dragging their ceo's asses out to a black van in handcuffs? I would watch it on pay per view
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There is a very simple solution.
Enforce the employer sanctions that are the law!
Seizure of all business assets and personal assets of the owner / CEO.
You would see MASSIVE self deportation! No split up families, no one loses their crap.
Totally agree. It's just like how when they start arresting johns, or even just start publishing their pictures in the paper, it is much more effective than arresting prostitutes. Of course, it won't happen.
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