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Old 11-21-2014, 10:07 AM
 
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Loaded question
Asking a question with a presumption built into it so that it can't be answered without appearing guilty

Why are you assuming Asians are being disadvantaged?
Are you trying to play dumb?
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Old 11-21-2014, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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The funny part is I remember when all this became the new 'unofficial' policy at Harvard. It was in the early 90s and because of the insanely high scores and grades of the Asian applicants, Harvard was moving fast towards become majority Asian if it kept up. Legacies started declining to go to Harvard in pretty significant numbers. The administration and alumni were freaking out. Then 'suddenly', the Asian acceptance rate plummeted. They had instituted their de facto Asian reverse affirmative action plan. Of course, they claimed they just moved to a holistic review admissions style but everyone knew what it was - including Asian applicants. The real reason they did that? Legacies give more money as alumni than Asians. Follow the money - that's always the answer.
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Old 11-21-2014, 10:18 AM
 
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The funny part is I remember when all this became the new 'unofficial' policy at Harvard. It was in the early 90s and because of the insanely high scores and grades of the Asian applicants, Harvard was moving fast towards become majority Asian if it kept up. Legacies started declining to go to Harvard in pretty significant numbers. The administration and alumni were freaking out. Then 'suddenly', the Asian acceptance rate plummeted. They had instituted their de facto Asian reverse affirmative action plan. Of course, they claimed they just moved to a holistic review admissions style but everyone knew what it was - including Asian applicants. The real reason they did that? Legacies give more money as alumni than Asians. Follow the money - that's always the answer.
If they follow the money, whey did they keep affirmative action by lowering the standard for admission for blacks?
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Old 11-21-2014, 10:19 AM
 
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You can achieve diversity of thought and opinion without using racial preferences in the admissions process. The color of the skin is not indicative of a particular perspective, and assuming that is morally and ethically wrong.

I support this lawsuit completely. Race and ethnicity should not be a factor, and the same standards should apply to every applicant.

I am glad these discriminatory practices are being challenged in court, and I look forward to the day when racial preferences are no longer part of the admissions process.
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Old 11-21-2014, 10:26 AM
 
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You can achieve diversity of thought and opinion without using racial preferences in the admissions process. The color of the skin is not indicative of a particular perspective, and assuming that is morally and ethically wrong.

I support this lawsuit completely. Race and ethnicity should not be a factor, and the same standards should apply to every applicant.

I am glad these discriminatory practices are being challenged in court, and I look forward to the day when racial preferences are no longer part of the admissions process.
You won't be popular among blacks like Opin_Yunated.
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Old 11-21-2014, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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If they follow the money, whey did they keep affirmative action by lowering the standard for admission for blacks?
https://college.harvard.edu/admissio...ons-statistics

Look at the statistics. 12% for black students - not a huge number. The Ivies have, for quite some time now, kept their percentages between 10-15% for black students. It's part of their diversity measure for one but when the Asian students began to outpace all other students, that's when they decided to change the criteria for Asians. For some reason, they decided that it was acceptable to have diversity - as long as it wasn't 'too much' where it could hurt them in the wallet.

ETA: This is the problem with affirmative action type of admissions. When one minority outperforms another, what do they do? Just create more problems.
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Old 11-21-2014, 10:29 AM
 
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You can achieve diversity of thought and opinion without using racial preferences in the admissions process. The color of the skin is not indicative of a particular perspective, and assuming that is morally and ethically wrong.

I support this lawsuit completely. Race and ethnicity should not be a factor, and the same standards should apply to every applicant.

I am glad these discriminatory practices are being challenged in court, and I look forward to the day when racial preferences are no longer part of the admissions process.
"I support this lawsuit completely. Race and ethnicity should not be a factor, and the same standards should apply to every applicant."

Absolutely, as long as the majority of the graduates are American they will obviously benefit this country.
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Old 11-21-2014, 10:33 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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That's missing the point of affirmative action, as its not limited to undergraduate schools. It exists in business contracts, employment, graduate school, etc. You're fixating on the variable instead of the concept.
you couldn't answer the question, could you?


imagine my stunned face
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Old 11-21-2014, 10:34 AM
 
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Yeah...let's all have a big ass fight about who can and can't get into a 50k a year private school. LMAO
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Old 11-21-2014, 10:38 AM
 
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Yeah...let's all have a big ass fight about who can and can't get into a 50k a year private school. LMAO
Most who got accepted also get huge amount of scholarship money along with it.
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