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Old 11-24-2014, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Are there any facts to the story you wish to cite as wrong, or is the typical sticking your fingers in your ear and stomping your feet all you can do because you dont like it.
Well that's really it in a nutshell, isn't it? The president's lawyers will claim that the precedent was set by Reagan and Bush, while your side will argue that it's only relevant if there was congressional intent.

Your theory begs the question that positive congressional intent is very evident in the fact that the Senate passed an overwhelmingly bipartisan, comprehensive, immigration reform bill and sent it off to the house for amendment or passage.
The fact that the house refuses to take the bill up must be your's and your site's theory that the EO Obama passed is going against congress and is an illegal executive order.

Wouldn't the next logical question be, which arm of congress has priority? the Senate with a large bipartisan vote for immigration reform? Or the House, who won't even bring the bill to the floor for debate. If they did, we might find that the majority of them are for immigration reform and would reflect the positive will of congress.
So the arguments the link makes are totally moot, as the House will not bring the Bill to the floor to even find out if immigration reform is actually the will of congress or not.

Thanks for the link. I spent a lot of time rummaging through it. I feel like I just got all of the "Soup Nazi's" secret recipes or was attending a meeting of a dark society that talks about conspiracies and secret forces at work. After 30 minutes, I wanted to march around the room, high stepping it with a flag. Any flag. Then I took a shower.
I suggest all regular posters on P&OC check out this link as it reveals three quarters of the threads almost word for word that get posted on this forum. you'll know what the fringe conservative right has to say before they say it.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archive...tive-order.php

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Old 11-25-2014, 08:41 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Then I would assume that you are really angry at the following presidents and their usurpation of legislative process?

George Washington 8 unnumbered
John Adams 1 unnumbered
Thomas Jefferson 4 unnumbered
James Madison 1 unnumbered
James Monroe 1 unnumbered
John Quincy Adams 3 unnumbered
Andrew Jackson 12 unnumbered
Martin van Buren 10 unnumbered
William Henry Harrison 0 unnumbered
John Tyler 17 unnumbered
James K. Polk 18 unnumbered
Zachary Taylor 5 unnumbered
Millard Fillmore 12 unnumbered
Franklin Pierce 35 unnumbered
James Buchanan 16 unnumbered
Abraham Lincoln 48 unnumbered
Andrew Johnson 79 unnumbered
Ulysses S. Grant 217 unnumbered
Rutherford B. Hayes 92 unnumbered
James Garfield 6 unnumbered
Chester Arthur 96 unnumbered
Grover Cleveland - I 113 unnumbered
Benjamin Harrison 143 unnumbered
Grover Cleveland - II 140 unnumbered
William McKinley 185 unnumbered
Theodore Roosevelt 1,081
William Howard Taft 724
Woodrow Wilson 1,803
Warren G. Harding 522
Calvin Coolidge 1,203
Herbert Hoover 968 5075 - 6070
Franklin D. Roosevelt 3,522 6071 - 9537
Harry S. Truman 907 9538 - 10431
Dwight D. Eisenhower 484 10432 - 10913
John F. Kennedy 214 10914 - 11127
Lyndon B. Johnson 325 11128 - 11451
Richard Nixon 346 11452 - 11797
Gerald R. Ford 169 11798 - 11966
Jimmy Carter 320 11967 - 12286
Ronald Reagan 381 12287 - 12667
George H. W. Bush 166 12668 - 12833
William J. Clinton 364 12834 - 13197
George W. Bush 291 13198 - 13488
Barack Obama 194 13489 - 13683...

The number after the name is the number of EOs each president has signed.

Also, based on your assessment, the ACA must be considered done law and finished business as it was passed by both houses and signed into law?


Ah, Teddy Roosevelt, and the start of the Progressive Socialist Era.
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Old 11-25-2014, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Ah, Teddy Roosevelt, and the start of the Progressive Socialist Era.
Hah! Yeah, I was surprised the TR did more than 1000 EOs during his presidency, too.
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