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What do people think could have been done? I hear one poster saying that the boy should have been institutionalized. Should the family have been closely monitored by the state? Should the state have taken over the role of parenting due to a diagnoses if Asperger's and OCD? These are common diagnosis by the way. What would the implications be if any of the above measures were implemented in all families with kids who have Asperger's? Think about it. It's actually pretty scary.
What do people think could have been done? I hear one poster saying that the boy should have been institutionalized. Should the family have been closely monitored by the state? Should the state have taken over the role of parenting due to a diagnoses if Asperger's and OCD? These are common diagnosis by the way. What would the implications be if any of the above measures were implemented in all families with kids who have Asperger's? Think about it. It's actually pretty scary.
If you are suggesting there was no government involvement in the kid's case, I would have to disagree.
The closest access the kid had to government, was a school.
Maybe someone should have taken a school sample from the kid.
How does a family compel an isolated kid like this to go to therapy or take his medications? How and what kind of coercion is possible? What would recommend they do? What would you do?
What purpose? Mom was into her guns. She had to store them somewhere.
I don't mean they were bought for a purpose , I mean maybe they were left in a convenient pace for a purpose for him to take his own life, it would have saved a lot of other life's if he had use it on himself earlier .
I don't agree. The schools did not refuse to address the problem. It appears the mother did not want to comply with the school's attempts to address the issue, after a certain point.
While I believe that schools do need to be responsible in the way they serve children with disabilities, I believe the parents are equally if not more responsible, as it is their child.
There is plenty of blame to go around in this tragedy. Many points where mistakes were made. Easy to see in hindsight, but the truth is, there are thousands of kids out there like Adam who will never go on to go on a shooting spree. As the report indicates, none of the problems Adam was having over the years could be used to predict he would go on to do what he did.
The one area that was grossly overlooked was the violent story he wrote in elementary school. THAT should have been a major wake-up call to all of the adults in his life. Sadly, his intense obsession with violence flew under everyone's radar.
He is a statistical anomaly.
Wow. Let's trample on the constitutional rights of millions because of one "statistical anomoly".
They need to open them back up. We had a court case recently in Washington where the state was sued over 'boarding' of the mentally ill in hospital emergency rooms. Local News | The News Tribune
We have money to build one after another pro sports palace. Millions is spent here on public art. Community colleges have classes on everything from yoga to video games. Cops make $75K and retire at 50. But we can't afford to build and operate facilities to care for the mentally ill.
Party of the problem also I think is the bankruptcy of the psychiatric profession. But that's a whole nother issue.
The state homes began closing in the 1980s in part because the thought was that community services could provide better outcomes and that large facilities were too costly to operate. Probably both thoughts were valid, but human beings have a tendency to muddle things up.
I would have no problem with returning to "hospitals", but then that takes us back to who is going to pay. Without lots of $$ or excellent insurance, most people would not be able to pay for longterm(years) care and custody.
How does a family compel an isolated kid like this to go to therapy or take his medications? How and what kind of coercion is possible? What would recommend they do? What would you do?
CT legislature has proposed that all kids (public school and homeschool) undergo behavioral and mental health screenings and if they are identified they be monitored by the state. If the parents do comply with the treatment plan then they will face repercussions from the state. That's way scarier then the very unlikely threat of any child growing up to become a "mass shooter". It's not a road that I think we should willingly go down.
"Hospitals" were ruled unconstitutional by the liberal court. Go back and read the history of the lawsuits. Some liberals are so inconsistent and short-minded it's scary.
The schools did a poor job of handling his case, but the schools do a poor job of handling many kids' cases. Nothing new there.
The big failing of the schools was not reporting his parents to Child Protective Services (for neglect). All school staff are mandated reporters and required by law to report, even if they merely suspect that neglect MIGHT be taking place. There were many such times when schools dropped the ball.
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