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The schools did a poor job of handling his case, but the schools do a poor job of handling many kids' cases. Nothing new there.
The big failing of the schools was not reporting his parents to Child Protective Services (for neglect). All school staff are mandated reporters and required by law to report, even if they merely suspect that neglect MIGHT be taking place. There were many such times when schools dropped the ball.
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I am sure that many were closed due to cost of compliance with court orders and regulations. I am equally as certain that many were hell holes that needed strict oversight. Either instance would have required massive infusions of public/private investment.
As I stated, I have no problem with institutionalization as properly needed. Are most people willing to spend the dollars needed, either private or public or personal?
Physically, he was severely anorexic. This would have been a red flag for possible withholding of food (which was not the case, but the schools had no way of knowing that).
He also physically manifested profound mental health disturbances: his hands were rubbed raw from hand washing. This went on for a long time.
He was profoundly unable to function socially; this would have been obvious to any one within ten minutes of meeting him. But for those who actually spent more time with him, it would have been even clearer. He often could not attend school. And he just got worse and worse. The school should have at the very least been suspicious that Nancy may have been neglecting his well-being by not getting him the help he needed.
And why didn't they report her (and his father)?? Because his parents were nice, fairly intelligent people who seemed to care about Adam (people who were a lot like the school teachers, administrators, and counselors themselves). In other words, they were "not the kind of people we need to report".
The schools let their preconceived, lazy assumptions and desire to not upset his parents keep them from doing their legally mandated duty.
Physically, he was severely anorexic. This would have been a red flag for possible withholding of food (which was not the case, but the schools had no way of knowing that).
We have no idea if he was anorexic while still school age. We only know his BMI at the time of his death.
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He also physically manifested profound mental health disturbances: his hands were rubbed raw from hand washing. This went on for a long time.
OCD is not something that could be reported to CPS as a sign of neglect.
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He was profoundly unable to function socially; this would have been obvious to any one within ten minutes of meeting him. But for those who actually spent more time with him, it would have been even clearer. He often could not attend school. And he just got worse and worse. The school should have at the very least been suspicious that Nancy may have been neglecting his well-being by not getting him the help he needed.
His diagnosis was Asperger's. A lot of kids with Asperger's and autism have difficulty with social interaction.
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And why didn't they report her (and his father)?? Because his parents were nice, fairly intelligent people who seemed to care about Adam (people who were a lot like the school teachers, administrators, and counselors themselves). In other words, they were "not the kind of people we need to report".
The schools let their preconceived, lazy assumptions and desire to not upset his parents keep them from doing their legally mandated duty.
Do you think that families with kids who are on the autism spectrum and or have OCD should be reported to CPS? Should their parenting be monitored by the state?
It's worth noting that 1 in 68 boys is diagnosed with autism. Should all of the families of children with autism be monitored by the state? Should their parents be forced to comply with all of the recommendations from "experts" or else?
We have no idea if he was anorexic while still school age. We only know his BMI at the time of his death.
OCD is not something that could be reported to CPS as a sign of neglect.
His diagnosis was Asperger's. A lot of kids with Asperger's and autism have difficulty with social interaction.
Do you think that families with kids who are on the autism spectrum and or have OCD should be reported to CPS? Should their parenting be monitored by the state?
He was actually more anorexic in the years leading up to his death than he was at time of death. The report makes this clear, with heights and weights.
I never said that OCD should be reported to CPS, so you seem to be posting in bad faith. I said that his own physical symptoms did not seem to be getting better over the years; this is a red flag.
His primary diagnosis most certainly was NOT Aspergers. But that's beside the point. You again seem to be arguing in bad faith, by putting extrapolations of what I said into the argument, as if it were what I said. Lanza's difficulties were the most profound ever seen by many of the professionals involved with him. They got worse over time. They indicated that his mental and emotional needs may not have been getting met; his parents may have been neglecting him. Key word is "may", which is all you need to make a report..
To answer your last question: please drop the cheesy jabs. Thank you.
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