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Old 11-29-2014, 11:16 AM
 
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Proof Surrogate
Substituting a distracting comment for a real proof.


No True Scotsman
This error is a kind of ad hoc rescue of one’s generalization in which the reasoner re-characterizes the situation solely in order to escape refutation of the generalization.


Mircea
My favorite archive of fallacies is:

List of fallacies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Generally I don't use the epitome of pop ignorance for much of anything, but in this case, the list is extensive
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Old 11-29-2014, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Whoville....
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The Basic Income Pumpkin.


Mircea
....The cousin of the Great Pumpkin no doubt. Just wait in the pumpkin patch on the night of the full moon and he rises and gives everyone in sight basic income, lol...
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Old 11-29-2014, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Whoville....
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I am waiting for them to come up with the raise the tax rate idea.

Maybe to 75% just because if raising taxes to raise revenue has never worked before is no reason not to try it again.


France’s 75 Percent Tax Rate Offers a Lesson in Revenue Estimating





The problem with younger minds is they tend to think the economy is static but in reality it is always moving.

So, guys on the other side, what about raising taxes?
Oh let's just cut to the chase and raise the tax rate to 100% then live off of our basic income and let's give it to illegals too while we're at it..... I mean the rich have so much let's play robin hood and take from them and give to everyone else.

Tax the rich...feed the poor...until there are no rich no more...

It would be so much simpler to just get a job.
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Old 11-29-2014, 12:52 PM
 
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Did you find any one of the 17 US government websites or not?

It's a simple question.

What's the problem? Are you afraid?

You'll have an easier time finding those websites just as soon as you learn the difference between Income and Wealth.
Yes, I regularly suffer from fear while posting to your nonsense. You seem truly obsessed with this. You keep repeating it over and over. And in all honesty I dont even know why you keep asking it, or what its in reference too, so I am fairly amused by it.

The repeated comment about not knowing the difference between wealth and income seem to be coming back (despite that fact that I have in fact stated it multiple times)

Are you OK?

Hey have you figured out what deflation is yet?
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Old 11-29-2014, 06:05 PM
 
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lol@Mircea debating himself
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Old 11-29-2014, 06:36 PM
 
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Yes, I regularly suffer from fear while posting to your nonsense. You seem truly obsessed with this. You keep repeating it over and over. And in all honesty I dont even know why you keep asking it, or what its in reference too, so I am fairly amused by it.

The repeated comment about not knowing the difference between wealth and income seem to be coming back (despite that fact that I have in fact stated it multiple times)

Are you OK?

Hey have you figured out what deflation is yet?
If you bought into Obama's tax the rich it means Obama played on your ignorance of not knowing the difference between high income and wealth.
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Old 11-29-2014, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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lol@Mircea debating himself
LOL harder at the dearth of posters willing to entertain you by playing your game.
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Old 11-29-2014, 07:41 PM
 
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1. The US can afford BI if it replaces current means tested welfare. Even if you keep a limited amount of programs in place, it's affordable.

2. There's no inflation since there would be taxes in place. The amount of money needed for it is already in circulation.

3. People will not stop working. If so, so what? There aren't enough jobs for those who want to work. The deincentivize argument has already been debunked.
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Old 11-29-2014, 07:47 PM
 
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If you bought into Obama's tax the rich it means Obama played on your ignorance of not knowing the difference between high income and wealth.
Apparently you don't understand how the two could possibly be related.
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Old 11-29-2014, 07:56 PM
 
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1. The US can afford BI if it replaces current means tested welfare. Even if you keep a limited amount of programs in place, it's affordable.

2. There's no inflation since there would be taxes in place. The amount of money needed for it is already in circulation.

3. People will not stop working. If so, so what? There aren't enough jobs for those who want to work. The deincentivize argument has already been debunked.
If BI is financed by replacing current means-tested welfare, people currently on means-tested welfare will be substantially worse off. It would be a giant transfer of resources from the welfare-set back to the working and middle class. Do you seriously think the Democrats would ever go for this?
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