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Most of America isn't that stupid and knows that a "2 x 4" measures 1 1/2 x 3 1/2. Ironic that someone with a screen name involving a hammer didn't realize that.
Probably more a reference to MC - can't touch this.
...pay particular attention to paragraphs 9 and 10. (Par. 10 being allegedly the central point of this thread.)
What Lowes was doing, among other things, was selling 'nominal dimensions products', i.e. a 2x4, that did not meet the minimum established dimensions, i.e. 1.5x3.5 inches.
There. Now you know. All the liberals and the state of CA are not out to get you...
That's great. But for the people who don't know that 2 inches really means 1.5 inches and 4 inches really means 3.5 inches (which I image is the majority of Americans), what's the harm in having retailers provide consumers with the actual size? Why is that notion so offensive?
the majority of americans? i doubt it. for instance my mother was a registered nurse for 50 years. never did any carpentry what so ever, and she knows that a 2x4 is 1.5x3.5 actual size. i would bet that my brother, again someone who never did any carpentry work in his life, but rather writes and debugs software for a living also knows that a2x4 is 1.5x3.5 actual size.
as i have noted it is the industry standard and has been for several DECADES.
now along come a few morons in the state of california to screw everything up because they think they are "helping" the people, when in reality all they are doing is raising money for the state of california.
and as i posted earlier, chances are this case will force the law to be overturned on appeal, or as a result of a class action lawsuit by lumber retailers against the state of california. and of course it will cause lumber prices to rise due to the cost of the litigation all because a few law makers, and a few lawyers didnt have the common sense to find out if there was a problem in the first place, which there wasnt.
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You do realize, don't you, that not just lowes, but EVERYBODY who sold lumber sells them by their true name , 2x4?
You do realize, don't you, that fining Lowes 1.6 million due to the complete demonstrated ignorance of fools, and judges going along with this, means none of these people are intelligent or informed enough to continue the human race?
60 dollars worth of paper label signs vs 1.6 million
But I didnt have any type of economic loss over it. If I absolutely needed 2x4's and not standard 2x4's I could have returned them for a full refund.. I chose not to.
Yeah I had to buy 1/2 inch spacers, but I would have had to do that if the walls were 2 1/2 thick or something else..
Why were you so stupid though? Only the stupidest of the stupid don't know the real size of a 2X4.
I figured this would happen some day!!! sure most people that work in construction know that dimensional lumber is 1/2 inch smaller on two sides, but the new people that buy dimensional lumber don't know that..
"Wouldn't it be ironic"
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What if raw lumber was no longer being cut 2" x 4" ?
That to skimp, they reduced the size, and blamed the need to plane off 1/2" on "poor quality"...
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The lumber industry abandoned previous standards back in 1992-3.
I bought 3/4" exterior grade plywood. And it WAS 3/4" thick.
Two years later, in the 3/4" pile, it was really 23"/32" thick . . .
In fact, all plywood shrank 1/32".
This I know because all my router bits suddenly were TOO BIG to make good dadoes.
This wood butcher was wroth, I might add.
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