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Location: Watching half my country turn into Gilead
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Originally Posted by uggabugga
if, for instance, my dad started a business from the ground up and left the inheritance to me..
how was that money 'tainted' and 'built on the backs of oppression,' whatever the eff that means
how should it be 'rightfully distributed'? who exactly has the 'right' to it?
A better analogy would be if your father started a business not from the ground up, but from the hard labor/subjugation of others (i.e. slavery/Jim Crow, etc.). Because that's really what we're talking about, isn't it?
A "rightful distribution" would be to simply amend the wrongs of the past (see Japanese internment, reparations). The victimized party would have the right to it
A better analogy would be if your father started a business not from the ground up, but from the hard labor/subjugation of others (i.e. slavery/Jim Crow, etc.). Because that's really what we're talking about, isn't it?
no. it isn't. here's what he said:
"Not even their actions. The actions of your dad. Yeah, it’s unfair that you can get judged by something you didn’t do, but it’s also unfair that you can inherit money that you didn’t work for."
when did my dad 'subjugate' others?
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A "rightful distribution" would be to simply amend the wrongs of the past (see Japanese internment, reparations). The victimized party would have the right to it
what wrongs did my dad do in this scenario? what party did he 'victimize'?
You're misquoting me--those are Chris Rock's words.
Though, I do agree with them. The point he's trying to make is that it is tainted money, built on the backs of oppression. In a perfect world, no one should have access to it. In a more realistic one, it should be rightfully redistributed.
I really think a lot of people here are reading way more into what Rock is saying and molding it into what they "think" he means or "want" him to mean.
Read what he said. Don't assume you're own "deeper meaning" just because what he is saying on the surface is bigotry. Rock is all about holding whites responsible for the actions of blacks and this quote is not very different.
He's talking about "inheritance" in general. Not only "the 1% inheritance." He is making generalities into absolutes. Life is not always "good vs bad" w whites being "bad" and blacks being "victims." Rock is a poor role model for blacks and (no apologies for my pun) "keeps hate alive!"
A better analogy would be if your father started a business not from the ground up, but from the hard labor/subjugation of others (i.e. slavery/Jim Crow, etc.). Because that's really what we're talking about, isn't it?
A "rightful distribution" would be to simply amend the wrongs of the past (see Japanese internment, reparations). The victimized party would have the right to it
FYI- A lot of people in Jim Crow era were "enslaved" in mental hospitals, STERILIZED, and falsely labeled "mentally defective." Most of them white women. Of course since they were sterilized, there are no offspring outside of nieces, nephews, cousins, etc.
No one was "enslaved" during Jim Crow besides these " mentally defective" described above. Many other races and religions, including Irish Catholic and Italians, and women as always, we're exploited during these times.
Where is your outrage and reparation campaign for these people?
I'm assuming that you don't care because you would not stand to benefit from attempting to right their plight.
Is this what YOU think Rock was getting at? Give blacks money even though it's "unfair?"
You sound like another entitled American of any/every race. Only caring about YOUR entitlement in the form of reparations, tax breaks, free phones, etc. And after you obtain them, (note NOT earn them) everyone else be damned! This mentality crosses party lines and ultimately helps no one as each side brings a longer list of entitlements to the table.
You, and people like you, are what is wrong with America.
Chris Rock makes some decent general points and typically states things with common sense.
You'll note that he doesn't give people a free pass for being a criminal etc. because they had a rough childhood either.
He's not condemning individuals for group racism but correctly asserting that historically american society was white and oppressive to blacks. I mean, how stupid does someone have to be to disagree with that? Lunch counters and MLK were something his and my fathers would have grown up with....we aren't talking 1776 here.
I'm in agreement with your post. But you can just read through this thread and see the lord didn't give out "common sense" in equal quantities...
It's not just conservatives who do that. There are plenty of racists on the left, they just hide it better.
I'll confess, my post was a little tongue and cheek. Conservatives love to bring up the "race card" when blacks talk of injustice but they don't like to look in the mirror...
I saw Chis Rock is pretty strange himself. I am more worried about the nuts shooting at schools first. Its a violent world as we see everyday. Hate runs deep in many groups.
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