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Old 12-04-2014, 12:00 PM
 
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Originally Posted by LetsRock View Post
They won't be citizens for 15+ years.

There should be a $10K fee per person to apply for citizenship. Make them pay for the services they are sucking up.
But that would be a tax, and the White House has no authority to pass a tax without the House writing the law.
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Old 12-04-2014, 12:01 PM
 
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Oh please! Do you know who is the impetus behind "comprehensive immigration reform"? Let me tell you. The US Chamber of Commerce, the US tech industry and various agri-businesses such as Conagra. When AZ passed its e-verify law it was the Chamber of Commerce that sued the state to try to stop it. Illegal immigrants are here because they mean $$$ to these groups. Obama is just doing their bidding. Texas, of all places, has an economy that is dependent on cheap labor. The politicians there wave their hands in the air and blame Obama while at the same time welcoming illegals like no other state has done. The hypocrisy of all this is ridiculous, but not half so ridiculous as all you right wingers falling for the false partisanship of it all. Suing the president, indeed. If they thought there was a hope in hell of that succeeding, they would not be doing it. Wake up and smell the coffee.
I dont give a **** who is behind the lawlesness. Do you think my position is going to change because some business entities want to support policies to reduce the demand on labor so they can save money?
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Old 12-04-2014, 12:03 PM
 
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Wrong again. Are you ever right? Looks like no is the answer.

Our laws are being followed, perhaps if the lame brain Republican house had taken a vote on the immigration bill the bi-partisan Senate passed, Obama would not have had to do what he did.
If the laws were being followed, there would be ZERO illegal immigrants here.. Dumbest posting I've ever seen EVER..
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Old 12-04-2014, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Laughing out loud at anyone who actually thinks these illegals won't be voting. They already are.
Prove it! Prove it! prove it!
You must be quoting some obscure blog in some never read right wing rant page. Certainly couldn't be your own thoughts on the matter. Only someone with an alligator Mouth attached to canary ass would even make such a ridiculous statement. and that surely isn't you. You're better than that. You're smarter than that and also know your audience is smarter than that. Must have been a misprint of a misquote to a piece of misinformation

Realistically, No illegal is going to take a chance of getting caught voting. That's a felony and immediate deportation. Why would they take the chance after paying some coyote 5-10 thousand dollars to get safely across the border and situated? Illegals live in the shadows, outside the system and you're trying to convince us all that they line up in droves at poling places voting for any democrat whose name they can't even read on the ballot because they speak or read no english. All to screw with the republicans who they also can't read on the ballot.

Yeah, right!

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Old 12-04-2014, 01:36 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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It is my understanding that Obama has no right to be conferring any rights upon anyone......."period"!
Exactly. Obama's illegal immigration EOs are illegal in and of themselves for the sheer reason of the fact that by issuing the EOs, Obama is himself committing federal offenses.

It's a federal offense to harbor, or aid or abet the harboring of illegal aliens in the U.S. By issuing the illegal immigration EOs, Obama is committing the federal offense of aiding and abetting the harboring of illegal aliens in the U.S.

8 U.S. Code § 1324 - Bringing in and harboring certain aliens | LII / Legal Information Institute

The U.S. President does not have the authority to issue EOs that violate federal law.
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Old 12-04-2014, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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Gergg Abbot is leading the charge what a fail and a waste of time

Link to story 17 states sue to block Obama immigration order - James Hohmann - POLITICO

The only reason why they are suing over this is because they do not want more citizens and they will be able to vote and have 500k to 2million more democratic voters
I am a proud Greg Abbott supporter.

He had my vote & I commend him on dethroning King Obama.
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Old 12-04-2014, 02:12 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Show me proof of this.
Sure:
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"More than 14 percent of non-citizens in both the 2008 and 2010 samples indicated that they were registered to vote."
CCES
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Old 12-04-2014, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Where I live.
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So what do they want?

The executive action is both temporary and narrow, they should be suing congress for inaction.
Temporary, narrow and ILLEGAL.

Obama and the feds have refused to enforce existing law.
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Old 12-04-2014, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Gergg Abbot is leading the charge what a fail and a waste of time

Link to story 17 states sue to block Obama immigration order - James Hohmann - POLITICO

The only reason why they are suing over this is because they do not want more citizens and they will be able to vote and have 500k to 2million more democratic voters
Yeh separation of powers is such a waste of time.
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Old 12-04-2014, 02:20 PM
 
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But that would be a tax, and the White House has no authority to pass a tax without the House writing the law.
But Obama can decree whatever he wants, at least according to his cheerleading squad.
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