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Old 12-06-2014, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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Boomers were the biggest generation in the history of America. Do you really think there was no competition for jobs for young Boomers??
I think the main issue is that college degrees don't mean as much anymore. I have a degree in geography (urban planning emphasis) and an environmental studies minor and every job I've applied for since graduation has sent a letter back (if they even reply) saying "As you may expect, competition for this position was very high. We were lucky to have over 250 applicants, many of whom have masters degrees and experience, so unfortunately you will no longer be considered. Thank you for your interest."

So, I started applying for $10-15/hr jobs doing whatever...office assistant, etc. and have had no luck as of yet. I think there are a lot of talented young people who fall into the trap of "get your degree and you'll find something." I really do hate making excuses and acting like a victim, so I'm continually thinking outside the box about business ideas or ways to get my foot in the door, but it's pretty disheartening to realize that the advice you were given didn't get you anywhere.
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Old 12-06-2014, 04:55 PM
 
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I think the main issue is that college degrees don't mean as much anymore. I have a degree in geography (urban planning emphasis) and an environmental studies minor and every job I've applied for since graduation has sent a letter back (if they even reply) saying "As you may expect, competition for this position was very high. We were lucky to have over 250 applicants, many of whom have masters degrees and experience, so unfortunately you will no longer be considered. Thank you for your interest."

So, I started applying for $10-15/hr jobs doing whatever...office assistant, etc. and have had no luck as of yet. I think there are a lot of talented young people who fall into the trap of "get your degree and you'll find something." I really do hate making excuses and acting like a victim, so I'm continually thinking outside the box about business ideas or ways to get my foot in the door, but it's pretty disheartening to realize that the advice you were given didn't get you anywhere.
A college degree may not mean much... but a college education sure does. The problem is that many college degree holders don't have a college education. They're just as unintelligent as those who never attended college.
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Old 12-06-2014, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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I think the main issue is that college degrees don't mean as much anymore. I have a degree in geography (urban planning emphasis) and an environmental studies minor and every job I've applied for since graduation has sent a letter back (if they even reply) saying "As you may expect, competition for this position was very high. We were lucky to have over 250 applicants, many of whom have masters degrees and experience, so unfortunately you will no longer be considered. Thank you for your interest."

So, I started applying for $10-15/hr jobs doing whatever...office assistant, etc. and have had no luck as of yet. I think there are a lot of talented young people who fall into the trap of "get your degree and you'll find something." I really do hate making excuses and acting like a victim, so I'm continually thinking outside the box about business ideas or ways to get my foot in the door, but it's pretty disheartening to realize that the advice you were given didn't get you anywhere.
I thank my parents for what I have. I also thank my two brothers.

I chose college based on sports program and my so called passion for art. I realized that I couldn't be a professional athlete and I couldn't be a starving artist. Self-Discovery is a painful process.

My brothers taught me how to invest, my parents and my brothers gave me money and businesses to run. I am glad that I have the best parents and brothers in the world.

My diploma is just a wall decoration for me now.
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Old 12-06-2014, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Austin
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I think the main issue is that college degrees don't mean as much anymore. I have a degree in geography (urban planning emphasis) and an environmental studies minor and every job I've applied for since graduation has sent a letter back (if they even reply) saying "As you may expect, competition for this position was very high. We were lucky to have over 250 applicants, many of whom have masters degrees and experience, so unfortunately you will no longer be considered. Thank you for your interest."

So, I started applying for $10-15/hr jobs doing whatever...office assistant, etc. and have had no luck as of yet. I think there are a lot of talented young people who fall into the trap of "get your degree and you'll find something." I really do hate making excuses and acting like a victim, so I'm continually thinking outside the box about business ideas or ways to get my foot in the door, but it's pretty disheartening to realize that the advice you were given didn't get you anywhere.
My career choice was in a male dominated field. No women allowed, at that time. There were three female graduates out of several hundred males in my undergraduate school. Do you really want to talk competition for jobs post grad?
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Old 12-06-2014, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Just transplanted to FL from the N GA mountains
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So, I started applying for $10-15/hr jobs doing whatever...office assistant, etc. and have had no luck as of yet. I think there are a lot of talented young people who fall into the trap of "get your degree and you'll find something." I really do hate making excuses and acting like a victim, so I'm continually thinking outside the box about business ideas or ways to get my foot in the door, but it's pretty disheartening to realize that the advice you were given didn't get you anywhere.
You know why your not getting those jobs as well right? Your in competition for those jobs with people like me. Someone who has 35 years experience doing those exact same jobs. I don't have the college education you do, but I've got the ability to step in and do them. No training necessary. Blame the economy as a whole but don't blame my generation. I thought I'd be nearing retirement, and gladly handing my jobs away by now, but because of the way things are, it'll be another 15 to 18 years before I'm ready to pull the pin and retire.

See.. it's not that we don't want you to succeed, we do. But it's survival for us still as well.
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Old 12-06-2014, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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And we're lazy? SMH. Boomers will continue to brand Milennials as lazy until the day they die.




Millennials are way more educated than their parents. They're also paid less. - Vox

Lol, surely you're not comparing today's college degree with that of the boomers' generation. Back then, entrance requirements were stringent and there were no "remedial" reading writing and math courses. In fact, one had to demonstrate proficiency in those areas as a prerequisite for admission. I won't even get into grade inflation.

Herding everyone into college who's not "college material" has severely reduced the value of today's degree, as any HR placement employee will tell you.

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Old 12-06-2014, 05:22 PM
 
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It is called the internet. It raped our wallets.
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Old 12-06-2014, 05:23 PM
 
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And we're lazy? SMH. Boomers will continue to brand Milennials as lazy until the day they die.
That's because you are. Sorry. I know it isn't nice to hear bad things, but the truth is the truth. That doesn't say anything about you personally or any other given individual, but as a generation the millennials have a poor work and study ethic compared to previous generations. My ex-wife was a graduate student in nontraditional education and a primary focus in that field is how to change education to enable millennials to be more competitive in the marketplace. Surveys of managers show that they had to spend more time hand-holding millennials than previous generations, the millennials expected more praise and reward to motivate them to do their jobs, they expected more raises and promotions sooner, etc.

Whether you are more educated than previous generations or not really isn't relevant to whether you are lazy. Those are two entirely separate things.
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Old 12-06-2014, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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I’m fine paying taxes to fund a social program that has so effectively reduced elderly poverty. I just don’t want those recipients of public funds to think of my generation as entitled.
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Old 12-06-2014, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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I thank my parents for what I have. I also thank my two brothers.

I chose college based on sports program and my so called passion for art. I realized that I couldn't be a professional athlete and I couldn't be a starving artist. Self-Discovery is a painful process.

My brothers taught me how to invest, my parents and my brothers gave me money and businesses to run. I am glad that I have the best parents and brothers in the world.

My diploma is just a wall decoration for me now.
Sounds pretty similar to me outside of our families. I also chose my school based on sports...I was recruited and made my decision mostly based on which team I wanted to be on. The academics were always important, but I didn't really know what I wanted to do and had to rely on advice from friends and family. That's life I guess...just have to move on and figure it out from here.
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