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View Poll Results: Out of these issues what do you think is the biggest difference between the left and right?
Religion vs secularism 7 6.80%
Attitudes on race, gender, etc 6 5.83%
The capitalist right vs the socialist left 34 33.01%
"Genetic" vs "Humanistic" values 4 3.88%
Big vs small government 20 19.42%
Other 32 31.07%
Voters: 103. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-06-2014, 12:58 PM
 
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Oh come on. Slavery? The 800 pound gorilla in the room?

What about womens' suffrage? What about Jim crow? What about interracial marriage?
Dont tell me about the founders and their legacy.

Conservatives have a LOT to answer for. Care to answer for that?



I didn't know those things were conservative issues!



the difference between a liberal and a conservative is what role and how big you want the government in our lives controlling everything.



I don't trust politicians in any country so I tend to side with the conservatives.
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Old 12-06-2014, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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What on earth does that have to do with anything, especially her comments? I'll bet she pays her taxes. But she does not want to pay for somebody else's "wants," their health care, or anything else they demand they have a "right" to.

Elizabeth Warren, is that you? "You didn't build that!"
Taxes pay for wants. That's literally their only function. They do not pay for needs because, like wants, many needs are objective. Aside from food, water, and shelter (which you'd call it socialism if taxes paid for that, for the individual anyway), there are no universal needs. I gain nothing from taxes going to a politicians insane salary or subsidizing big oil, yet neither side has taken action against this.
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Old 12-06-2014, 01:12 PM
 
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If you didn't understand my post, what I meant by it was black people tend to think that every white guy is out to get them. The liberal way of life helps keep that warped idea embedded deeply in their heads. Sooner or later an act of God comes along and supprizes them every one in awhile. It only happens now and then in revolving cycles. They don't know what to do or what to feel when a "miracle" like that comes along. All I can say is be ready for it. It's gone almost as soon as it came.


God bless!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWLw7nozO_U
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Old 12-06-2014, 01:40 PM
 
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In my opinion, where you fall on the political spectrum really is a matter of "trust".


Do you trust the people around you? Do you trust the government? Do you trust corporations? Do you trust people of other ethnicities/nationalities/religions?


Depending on how much or how little trust you have in these entities is the most reliable way to find out where you fall on the political spectrum.


Someone who trusts the government but not corporations, is probably a socialist/communist. Someone who distrusts the government but trusts the free market, is probably a libertarian. Someone who doesn't really trust corporations, but trusts the government even less, is probably a typical conservative. And someone who trusts neither the government or the market, is probably an anarchist.


Someone who doesn't trust our government, but doesn't trust other governments a whole lot more is probably a conservative who supports an aggressive foreign policy. Someone who doesn't trust people of other nationalities/ethnicities/religions is probably something like a white nationalist, or black nationalist, or an Arab nationalist, or a Muslim nationalist, or Christian nationalist, and so on and so forth.
Not one of those (government, corporations) care about you more than you and when people realize that the more you'll act accordingly and the better off they'll be. People put too much trust in the outside. In other words, invest in yourself first.
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Old 12-06-2014, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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The right wants to take care of themselves the left wants someone to take care of them. Pretty simple really.
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Old 12-06-2014, 07:47 PM
 
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#3 and #5 are basically the same thing.
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Old 12-06-2014, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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Collectivist (common good outweighs individual rights) vs. Individualist (individual rights come before the common good)

I think the fundamental argument isn't left vs right, but authoritarianism vs. libertarianism, as George Orwell put it.
Both left and right can be authoritarian (right wing wants a powerful authority to enforce their views, left wing want their views enforced), but both can be libertarian (both want to allow each person to choose for themselves).
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Old 12-06-2014, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Pa
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The only difference is the rhetoric they use to justify the exact same behavior.
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Old 12-06-2014, 09:23 PM
 
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Empathy vs self-serving.
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Old 12-06-2014, 09:28 PM
 
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There's at least one book on that; the name escapes me at the moment though. Basically, conservatives are more fearful and liberals are more inquisitive.
Many studies online point to these differences:

Right: more happy, optimistic, fearful of new things, more paranoia, etc....

Left: more depressed, embrace new things, pessimistic, etc....
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