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Old 12-08-2014, 06:29 AM
 
Location: Texas
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No, I doubt the personal stories people try to tell here. But you seem to think it is all ACA's fault that your employer raised your health insurance, so I can't argue with that.

ACA was specifically cited as the reason for my employer provided health care costs increasing. Mine didn't go up 30%, but it did go up.
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Old 12-08-2014, 07:03 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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If the employer is mandated to provide more care, why the hell would you expect the cost to fall?

This type of asinine thinking is what baffles me to no end...
Those are the "stupid American voters" to whom Gruber referred. Note that they're always liberals/Dem voters.
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Old 12-08-2014, 07:44 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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So you are self employed but you have a boss?
Independent contractors frequently have that situation. Not unusual at all.
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Old 12-08-2014, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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ACA was specifically cited as the reason for my employer provided health care costs increasing. Mine didn't go up 30%, but it did go up.
So what was the reason for it going up each year before that?
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Old 12-08-2014, 08:17 AM
 
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So you are self employed but you have a boss? So if your rate was half what it was in 2014, what did it actually cover? It sounds like it didn't meet the minimum requirements, which is already a low bar.

As usual, did not read the post properly, my old plan was 80/20, $5K deductable. I had a hospital stay for an infection in 2010, and that's what was paid. If to meet ACA minimum standards is such a low bar, why does it cost so much more but cover less?
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Old 12-08-2014, 09:29 AM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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with embattled Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber set to testify on Tuesday about his shocking statements about

"the stupidity of the American voter" and his contention that deception was essential to Obamacare's passage

I would love to see how he responds to the questions given to him. He is an azz of the worse kind. Who wants their base, their supporters, stupid and naïve, and that he made pretty damn clear.

Guess they got their wishes didn't they!

Heard this idiot on video, and what came out of his mouth, how is he going to talk his way out of this one.

Very clear this idiot wants his supporters dumb, stupid, naïve, and ignorant.
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Old 12-08-2014, 10:58 AM
 
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So what was the reason for it going up each year before that?
Cost of care goes up every year before that..

But thats not what you left wing kooks said would happen Post ACA..

you guys said we need to pass ACA to control costs and cut it $2500..
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Old 12-08-2014, 11:54 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
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ACA was specifically cited as the reason for my employer provided health care costs increasing. Mine didn't go up 30%, but it did go up.
Same for me.
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Old 12-08-2014, 12:44 PM
 
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Cost of care goes up every year before that..

But thats not what you left wing kooks said would happen Post ACA..

you guys said we need to pass ACA to control costs and cut it $2500..
There is more evidence that health care costs have subsided over the past six years and that they continue to grow at a slower pace than the economy.

Initially the slower growth was believed to be caused by the economic decline but at this point it appears the overall system is holding at a much lower growth rate.

So th overall growth in health care cost is modest. If any segment is hitting sharp increases that would therefore represent redistribution of costs...not cost increases.

The ACA was a committee built thing. There the outcome is noever known until well after the task is completed. And so far it appears the outcome was good.
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Old 12-08-2014, 01:09 PM
 
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There is more evidence that health care costs have subsided over the past six years and that they continue to grow at a slower pace than the economy.

Initially the slower growth was believed to be caused by the economic decline but at this point it appears the overall system is holding at a much lower growth rate.

So th overall growth in health care cost is modest. If any segment is hitting sharp increases that would therefore represent redistribution of costs...not cost increases.

The ACA was a committee built thing. There the outcome is noever known until well after the task is completed. And so far it appears the outcome was good.
There is NOTHING in ACA which could attribute to a lower healthcare rise.. healthcare costs rise with the economy, in bad economic periods they rise slower than they do in good economic periods.

There is a reason they tied the tax on the employer to the inflation rate and not healthcare rate increases..

The reason of course is because no one expects the economy to suck forever.

if thats your plan, you go with it.. Dont count me on joining you
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