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Or is it because the business owners are greedy and care more about making money then your well being which is pretty sad they care more about money then human life. It is also sad that this is what our country has become that a persons value if they should have a place to live or not it based on what they do. I choose to be more humane and see people as humans valuable members not just clogs to put in your business to make money like some scumbags do.
The compensation for a job is not based on the individual merit of the person doing the job, but on the value assigned to the task itself.
Someone else already pointed this out, but if LeBron James, Albert Einstein and President Obama all decide to go cook fries at McDonalds, they're all going to make right around $7-9 per hour because cooking fries at McDonalds is only profitable at a wage of $7-9 an hour. The supply of people capable of being a proficient fry cook art McDonalds is roughly equal to all those humans who have motor function, can stand up, and can lift 10 pounds. That's essentially every person over the age of 10 who isn't limited by physical handicap. In other words...the supply is massive. The job itself requires roughly 10 minutes of training and maybe a full shift to achieve full proficiency. Those two things added together means it has very, very low turnover COST, so the wage is low for that particular task to be performed. The personal value of then person doing it has no bearing on what that job is actually worth in relation to the value it provides the company. Compensation is based on the value the task itself profitably provides to a business. What choices an individual makes in life that affect their own profitability is irrelevant to how much value a job creates for a business.
A teenager cooking fries at McDonalds probably makes a good solid wage for their station in life and choices to that point. When you have no rent, no bills, maybe gas for your car and money to take your girl on dates...then $8 an hour part time is good scratch. If you have 4 kids and a mortgage, not so much. But those are individual choices that no employer bears responsibility for, so they have no bearing on compensation. If you screwed your life up, your boss is not required to bail you out with higher compensation.
That's not greed, it's simple arithmetic and economics.
If you wish to have a job with higher compensation, you need to attain the skills, experience and knowledge necessary to perform jobs that create higher value for the employer.
I spend most of my day infront of a PC or a smartphone. I do enjoy the social interaction I get from going to a retail store or ordering at the McDonalds counter (I don't do drive thrus) You don't have to automate dang near everything.
A basic income is going to be enviable. The conservatives like to think that all the fast food/retail workers that are out of work will all get programming jobs at google.
You really think that you can make enough to live on repairing lawn mowers?
The deserving ones can.
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30,000 is in fact a ton of money for those starting out. Even for many of those who are further along. The fact that you dont understand this detracts from your very reasonable message.
It's called budgeting.
You have to plan and save up for it.
That means instead of spending $30,000 on NetFlix and Fast-Food and Starsux, you put that money into the bank.
Success requires sacrifices.
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When the a bunch of people do that and they find there are no jobs for all them what will they do?
They can go to the library and expand their minds by studying a variety of topics.
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Many worked in factories but those factories actually paid well and now most of those jobs are gone.
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If most of your money is being spent on food, clothing, transportation not much you can do.
Yes, there is....you can find ways to spend less on food, clothing and transportation.
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A job can not be profitable to an employee if they do not make enough to live on....
Common sense says you alter your Life-Style to fit your new income level.
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So you have no evidence and and can not prove it yet you still claim it is true if that is not delusional I do not know what is.
There's evidence all around you, but you refuse to acknowledge it, or even see it.
You have the classic Entitlement Mentality.
You refuse to make any personal sacrifices; demand everything now; demand that everyone else pay for it; and that everyone else do all the work for you.
So you have no evidence and and can not prove it yet you still claim it is true if that is not delusional I do not know what is. You are not taking in account some people are not smart enough to do more do not have the opportunity to do more but keep sitting on your throne saying they are making excuses so you can make an excuse not to help them. What do you think will happen even if everyone could better themselves do you think there would be jobs for them?
Here's an idea: how about they help themselves. Radical, I know.
On my throne? Hardly. Just the average working stiff that has never made excuses for getting ahead.
So when 20,000 jobs are gone getting new skills is just gonna make new jobs appear for all them?
Yes, exactly. That's called progress. Throughout time, jobs have been lost thanks to progress. But new jobs pop up, thanks to progress.
Why do you insist on forcing employers to run their business for the sole benefit of providing jobs? That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.
If most of your money is being spent on food, clothing, transportation not much you can do Do you think jobs that pay more or just out there for people to take? If someone leaves then someone else will have to fill that low wage job.
Or is it because the business owners are greedy and care more about making money then your well being which is pretty sad they care more about money then human life. It is also sad that this is what our country has become that a persons value if they should have a place to live or not it based on what they do. I choose to be more humane and see people as humans valuable members not just clogs to put in your business to make money like some scumbags do.
So, this money you are proposing to steal, in order to support the lazy losers of this world - where does that money come from? And why do you think it's OK to steal it?
Many worked in factories but those factories actually paid well and now most of those jobs are gone.
Those jobs are gone because the greedy unions decided that the labor should be paid more than it was worth. So the business owners (remember, their purpose is to create a profit, not jobs) replaced them with technology.
Many worked in factories but those factories actually paid well and now most of those jobs are gone.
Manufacturing industry reported a gap of 600,000 OPEN jobs that went unfilled because of lack of skilled workers.
You cannot take a GED burger flipper and think they can go work in a factory.
FF is a high turnover min wage job requiring NO skills. If you can't speak English they have you in the back or cleaning the tables/floors and emptying the trash.
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