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Old 12-08-2014, 01:10 PM
 
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Too bad his mom didn't take that advice.
Wishing that someone had been aborted before they were born is an example of hate-filled rhetoric.
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Old 12-08-2014, 01:12 PM
 
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Certainly, the world would likely be a much better place if she had.
Wishing that someone had been aborted before they were born is an example of hate-filled rhetoric.
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Old 12-08-2014, 01:18 PM
 
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Since it's Breitbart I'm going to assume that there are a few selective quotes and a misrepresentation of what the paper in question was studying.

Opens link. Gets past the sea of pop-ups. Reads the actual paper... Yep, I was right.
The article is accurate. I'm not sure why it's newsworthy though as his position is 100% accurate and well established.
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Old 12-08-2014, 01:20 PM
 
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now that you've read the paper, put the quotes in context and tell us how the overall meaning differs.

then explain what was 'misrepresented.'

thanks in advance.
Oh, for sure.

Abortion is and always has been available to affluent women. Legal or not, women with money could both afford to find a medical practitioner for the procedure, and were able to travel to wherever they needed.

It is poor women that have difficulty in obtaining abortions. And the laws and restrictions against abortion have an undue impact on the poor.

It is also the poor that are largely the victims in our society of criminal acts and violence.

By making abortion available to the poor, you reduce the need for welfare, you reduce the stresses that cause crime, you even make it possible for women in poverty to get out of poverty. And therefore you reduce the reliance on safety nets provided by and PAID FOR by society.

It has nothing to do with eugenics.

The study was a practical analysis, an exercise in logic. It's conclusions were supported by actual numbers and statistics. SCIENCE.

And yet again, we have right-wingers pretending that science is somehow immoral.
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Old 12-08-2014, 01:52 PM
 
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Since it's Breitbart I'm going to assume that there are a few selective quotes and a misrepresentation of what the paper in question was studying.

Opens link. Gets past the sea of pop-ups. Reads the actual paper... Yep, I was right.
Let us know how your preferred sources present this story.

Thanks in advance
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Old 12-08-2014, 01:59 PM
 
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Need I remind you that search engines don't actually rewrite the content they link to?
If you think Breitbart's trustworthy, I've got some great oceanfront land for sale here in Colorado.
Thanks for the tip on Google's friendliness and sharing your opinion of Breibart.

Anyway, back to the thread's subject matter, let us know how your preferred sources present this story.

Thanks in advance
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Old 12-08-2014, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Spokane, WA
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This is the way its supposed to work, as designed. The right kinds of people are having abortions.
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Old 12-08-2014, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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I keep thinking of Margaret Sanger when I read this....

".... Gruber’s abortion advocacy is of a particularly pungent eugenics variety. He’s on record repeatedly making the case from social science that abortion is a “social good” because it reduces the number of “marginal children,” by which he means urban poor—those he says can be counted on to commit crimes if they were ever born.
Gruber co-authored a paper during the Clinton years which argued that legal abortion had saved the U.S. taxpayer upwards of $14 billion in welfare benefits and that it also lowered crime......
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Obamacare Architect Jonathan Gruber: Abortion of 'Marginal Children' a 'Social Good'
Hey, those are future liberals...
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Old 12-08-2014, 03:09 PM
 
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Wishing that someone had been aborted before they were born is an example of hate-filled rhetoric.
Tell that to Gruber then.
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Old 12-08-2014, 03:17 PM
 
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Tell that to Gruber then.
Why?

He didn't wish anyone unborn.

He simply did an analysis of the cost/benefits to society.

YOU are the one who spouted hatred.
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