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"It Can't Rain All The Time"
(set 28 days ago)
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Originally Posted by urbanlife78
All government is tyranny? So does that mean we should have no government at all?
Some people are upset, because others have voted their rights away. Not to worry, they'll soon get with the new program, give 'em time to settle down into lock and step.
Some people are upset, because others have voted their rights away. Not to worry, they'll soon get with the new program, give 'em time to settle down into lock and step.
What rights of theirs did others vote away? The right to own slaves or something?
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"It Can't Rain All The Time"
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Originally Posted by whogo
Agreed. America was given a clear choice in the '64 election. They made the wrong one.
I was thinking more about their choices in those that make up the house, but yea...okay. Executive power was not as great then though. The house held all the cards. They still do, but not many people care about mid term elections as they believe the President holds all the power and he is but only a figure head.
Could be we do need more education directed towards Civics.
"The Civics Education Initiative is a first step to ensure all students are taught basic civics about how our government works, and who we are as a nation…things every student must learn to be ready for active, engaged citizenship."
Do you actually believe the governments power has been on the decrease?
Of course it has. There has been a concerted effort to reduce government regulation of the financial industry over the last 30-35 years. Result: Multiple bank failures and financial crises while wealth disparity increases and the middle class's income stagnates.
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"It Can't Rain All The Time"
(set 28 days ago)
Location: North Pacific
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Originally Posted by urbanlife78
What rights of theirs did others vote away? The right to own slaves or something?
The first thing that pops for me is the Patriot Act and warrentless wire taping, to ensure the safety of Americans, we can be spied on by our government and never be notified of the encroachment to our rights to privacy...
Another example children's lunches and the schools that will not let sack lunches be brought from home.
There's more...but its late and I'm beat...give me time and I can come back with a list.
The first thing that pops for me is the Patriot Act and warrentless wire taping, to ensure the safety of Americans, we can be spied on by our government and never be notified of the encroachment to our rights to privacy...
Another example children's lunches and the schools that will not let sack lunches be brought from home.
There's more...but its late and I'm beat...give me time and I can come back with a list.
Wiretapping is an issue, I agree with you there but that has been an issue in the past during war times. The problem is when something bad happens to Americans we tend to expect the government to do something about it.
School lunches isn't a right. If one doesn't like what is being served in public schools, there is always private school if a parent doesn't want to deal with the public system.
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"It Can't Rain All The Time"
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Originally Posted by urbanlife78
Wiretapping is an issue, I agree with you there but that has been an issue in the past during war times. The problem is when something bad happens to Americans we tend to expect the government to do something about it.
School lunches isn't a right. If one doesn't like what is being served in public schools, there is always private school if a parent doesn't want to deal with the public system.
What about the parent that hasn't the funding for private school? My mother would have bust something if she had been told she didn't have the right to see to my meals. Back then was a different time though where the schools and the parents both respected one another. Also, we didn't have a first lady that believed she knows all there is to know about nutrition and parents don't know how to parent their child.
The government is into regulating every thing including our personal behaviors and how we conduct ourselves in public.
Has there been a time since 2001 and the enactment of the Bush's Patriot Act that it could not be said, we are at war?
Just know I'm not flying any where at any time, because I'm not up to being felt up at the airports.
The American Empire will never, ever be a socialist agricultural theistic paradise with urban industrial centers like it was prior to WW II. That is all over-over, barring some major cataclysm.
What too many fail to realize is that the entire world is in the midst of a revolution due to technology. Never before could a government or corporation have access to so many aspects of citizen's lives. Most of it is recorded somehow, someway and easily accessed. Go to the SS office. With a number and a few taps of the Enter key, all information recorded about oneself and one's family, associates and what-not else will display on the screen. Ditto the DMV/SoS. The bank. A preferred supermarket chain. No other government has ever had accessible control like this until today. No other government has the media America does, either. Nor the level of indoctrination thru that onerous mess we call education. Get your neighbors SS number and pay a small fee online to do a background check: You could know everything about them, at least what has been recorded accurately. Government reflects this.
Any government desires only one thing: Control. That is the only word that sums up government and only a fool could believe otherwise. It has no purpose other than to control whatever it holds sway over. Since government is in some way a reflection of the people who live under it... the American Empire does say a lot about its people by what they tolerate, what they want by accepting (not supporting or railing against) how it is governed. Of course, most Americans have no real idea what they want but they know they must want something. Enter the media, the schools, the 'experts' and the sophistry. A government provides benefits for the same reason they would open up the granaries in days gone by; to keep the peace, to not collapse. It also has to fulfill the need to make mad profits for those that control it, as usual. 'Direct' democracy is just a modern veil in that respect... (The Enlightenment was such a _____ to the rulers of yore!)
Culture and society go hand-in-hand and government reflects this as it must retain or at least make an attempt to seem relevant to those looking to it for guidance, as a touchstone to feel safe, even cared for. As a tribe looks to its chief so do populated empires look to their official offal to make them feel significant. We have had slim pickings for some time now and that is what one should expect in a place so corrupt and purposely divided as the American Empire. In fact, purposely have we had no actual leaders but an array of goofs-in-chief with no merit nor any talent other than to try to look like they know what they are doing for at least 40 years (!). So what has the government been up to as the clowns do their little dance everyday? That will tell you what is actually going on and who is in control and what they want.
Government is what it always has been and always was. A system to keep things accounted for, in order and available, its citizenry just another resource there when needed for those that control government thru unelected positions. A tyranny with degrees of severity, a keen self-interest in keeping those points unseen or skewered as it attends to its prime purpose: Control.
Now go ahead and anger the government or tell it to blithely go do something nasty to itself and see where that gets you!
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