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Old 12-13-2014, 09:30 AM
 
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hmmmm

facts:

1. The group was originally founded by a protégé of Osama Bin Laden, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, in 1999 as Jamaat al-Tawhid wa-l-Jihad (JTWJ).

2. "Levant" -- a region stretching from southern Turkey through Syria to Egypt including Lebanon, Israel, the Palestinian territories and Jordan, including Iraq

3. ISIS is the Islamic State In Syria.... ISIL- Islamic State in the Levant

4. yes they did enter Iraq in 2004...but they were created (your word) in 1999

5. ISIS is an extremist Sunni Islamist movement , Sunni's are not just an Iraqi group...there are Sunni's in Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, and even in Afghanistan, and Uzbekistan, and as far up as Chechnya



Bush sucked and made a lot of mistakes as POTUS, but to say USA created isis, is not even near the truth
It's the EXACT truth.
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Old 12-13-2014, 09:55 AM
 
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I will say this for a certainty if we had let Saddam and Assad alone there would be no ISIS.
You're not the only one.

"Here is a sample of Kucinich’s analysis in the interview:
Well, if we’re concerned about ISIS waging genocide, then we should be concerned about the fact that the US government helped to fund jihadists who were wiping out Christians in Syria. I mean, the American people have to understand that these groups that are right now working inside of Iraq and in Syria have basically been supported with money from Saudi Arabia and resources from the United States. Some of them were trained in Jordan. And now they’re attacking Christians in Iraq. We have to change our international policy. Every occupation, every intervention, fuels an insurgency, and Christians are getting the blowback from this. We’ve got to look at what America does in helping to fuel these wars where Christians are the ones to take it in the neck."
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Old 12-13-2014, 03:48 PM
 
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All you left wingers forget this......FACT!!

How many 911s have we had since we started killing these people?

Still waiting..........
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Old 12-13-2014, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Houston
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All you left wingers forget this......FACT!!

How many 911s have we had since we started killing these people?

Still waiting..........
How many 9/11s did we have before 9/11?
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Old 12-13-2014, 03:58 PM
 
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Yeah, but it's mostly what we DO that enrages people, not what we don't do.

Lot's of nations on this Earth do nothing and those countries rarely find themselves in the crosshairs of belligerent idiots from regions of the Earth that aren't even in their hemisphere.

When i think of 9/11, the most absurd thing is that a gang from Saudi Arabia...a place where many if not most Americans can't even find on a map, crossed an ocean to attack a nation that shouldn't even be in the forefront of their thinking. It should never cross the mind of an Arab to attack this country if we were minding our business.
That couldn't be farther from the truth. Go to any gas station and see how you are treated as an American when you visit. If they don't try to short change or over charge you, they sell you expired snacks and food. Even worse when they know you are former U.S. military and eye you up and down with a dirty look. That's when you have to give them a reality check that they are here in the States and happen to notice your weapon you are carrying. They go back to ogling the blonde soccer mom bending over quite soon then.
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Old 12-13-2014, 03:58 PM
 
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I've been saying for a while that we created ISIS....or shall i say that we SURELY created the conditions for it by yet again interfering in the internal affairs of a foreign nation thereby making a bad situation much worse.

This piece/interview in the Guardian by Martin Chulov features an interview with Abu Ahmed, who explains how they formed ISIS right under our noses by using Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi (ISIS leader), who tricked the Americans into believing that he was a peaceful Sunni leader. This excerpt is unbelievable:



Pathetic. And it gets worse:



Congratulations my fellow Americans. You should be proud.

ISIS leader: "If there was no American prison in Iraq, there would be no ISIS"
Then the obvious solution from having this happen again is take no prisoners. Just gun them down and those that we do have.....................just gun them down.

Problem solved.
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Old 12-13-2014, 04:05 PM
 
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Then the obvious solution from having this happen again is take no prisoners. Just gun them down and those that we do have.....................just gun them down.

Problem solved.
^^^




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXtdhyuflcY



Signed your worst nightmare from yesteryear!
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Old 12-13-2014, 04:08 PM
 
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That "fear" they remember keeps them from attacking the homestead AGAIN!!

Remember it well......we're some nasty fightin' sons a ******s!!
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Old 12-13-2014, 04:12 PM
 
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All you left wingers forget this......FACT!!

How many 911s have we had since we started killing these people?

Still waiting..........
We had one after we did. Actually two but the first wasn't as successful and we had some smaller attacks.
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Old 12-13-2014, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Why did they attack us on 9/11?
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