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Old 12-12-2014, 09:25 AM
 
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Get your head out of your partisan ass. This thing passed with support from both sides of the aisle. "Business as usual" is us blaming each other instead of turning our ire on the targets that deserve it--our bought and paid for politicians in Washington. If/when the banks fail again, the money to bail them out will be from ordinary Democrats and Republicans and Libertarians and Greenies and everyone else across the country. The only ones who won't suffer are the wealthy bankers who own Washington.

That, my friend, is "business as usual."
Many of the Democrats supporting the bill are doing so in spite of the Wall Street giveaway, not because of it. I'm not going to say Democrats are all saints or anything, but it's foolish to think that both parties are the same here. If the Democrats controlled the House, this wouldn't have happened.
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Old 12-12-2014, 09:26 AM
 
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Lol...so that's your excuse and your sticking to it, eh? When the GOP does it they're evil incarnate looking out for the wealthy but when the Democrats do it they're taking a principled stand. You folks can excuse anything when you put your little halos on.
That's some sweet partisan spinning right there.

The government wasn't going to shut down. Boehner stated that there was a stopgap funding bill ready to go should this one not pass. The real reason this one was "must pass" is because the Speaker and others didn't want to stick around and their jobs... Oh, and it's full of giveaways to the people they really work for.

He implored his members to back it: “Listen, if we don't get finished today, we're going to be here until Christmas.”
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Old 12-12-2014, 09:29 AM
 
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Welcome to the party you hypocitical Redskin.,<---waiting for that one to get asterisked by the PC police.

Better late than never.

Elections have conseqences.

Politics, bedfellows blah, blah, blah..
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Old 12-12-2014, 09:31 AM
 
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Welcome to the party you hypocitical Redskin.,<---waiting for that one to get asterisked by the PC police.

Better late than never.

Elections have conseqences.

Politics, bedfellows blah, blah, blah..
So you approve of the appropriations bill and all of the non-appropriations stuff it contains?

And what did Warren say that was hypocritical? There was never an actual threat of a shutdown, nor did she advocate for one.
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Old 12-12-2014, 09:34 AM
 
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Many of the Democrats supporting the bill are doing so in spite of the Wall Street giveaway, not because of it. I'm not going to say Democrats are all saints or anything, but it's foolish to think that both parties are the same here. If the Democrats controlled the House, this wouldn't have happened.
Boehner and the Republicans had a short term CR geared up and ready to go if this didn't pass. Sorry, but I am not letting the Democrats who helped push this bill over the finish line off the hook. It would not have passed without them.
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Old 12-12-2014, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Places you dream of
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Funny, because some of my leftist friends are saying that Warren is a hypocrite because she saying she WON'T shutdown the government, and she should, because these Wall St. Boot licking provisions are worthy of it.

Amazing how warped your perspective is depending on how myopically inclined you are to one side or the other.

Our political discourse in this country is embarrassing.
It is not embarrassing as it looks like very other countries politics- but we were supposed to be better- they do not care anymore - its about $$$ and every congress has its issues- and bills to dispute- but please leave the DARN federal workforce out of it- stop using them as pawns... you shut the gov't what is stopping? only worker's pay- the rest continue to move- except for recreational stuff- there should be a LAW that the employees get paid no matter what- they are working- if not let all go home- let the gangs out of the federal prisons- let the pedophiles get loose amongst the schools- - let mad cow be in your next burger- let Mexico- shoot all of Central America walk in- and darn those great drugs off the Miami fast boats - hallelujah! shut 'er down.
I don't agree with every politician every time they open their mouth- some are just weird like the Cuban Canadian talking bout green eggs- or Feinstein spilling out all the secrets of the CIA- but as I see it "the people" are becoming less and less the priority to our lawmakers.
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Old 12-12-2014, 09:40 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Remember That Time Elizabeth Warren Said A Shutdown Was "Anarchy"?

So when the GOP was blamed for the recent shutdown, Elizabeth Warren claimed that the shutdown was anarchy and literally started talking about how children could die from the shutdown and that it harms the middle class at the expense of special interests. Her views were parroted by many in the media.

Now Warren and some of the same parrots in the media are now justifying a potential shutdown as patriotic and pro-middle class if it were to be over liberal reasons.


How many Democrats have intelligence and integrity to NOT flip flop such egregiously in such a short time?
Of course, the so-called "shut-down" isn't really a shut-down. Most of government and government services still operate. It's a symbolic "shut-down" only. They close some parks, and the White House tours were discontinued.
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Old 12-12-2014, 09:41 AM
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"Threatening" to shutdown the government as opposed to actually hutting down the government because you don't like ACA that already passed congress are quite different. Rolling back regulations on the financial industry that put people out of work and caused one of the greatest economic down turns in our history, maybe you can see where these legislators should have been taken to task.
hmmm. so you're saying she's bluffing?
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Old 12-12-2014, 09:42 AM
 
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So you approve of the appropriations bill and all of the non-appropriations stuff it contains?

And what did Warren say that was hypocritical? There was never an actual threat of a shutdown, nor did she advocate for one.
You obviously didn't read the link and or your comprehension skills are limited.
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Old 12-12-2014, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Lol...so that's your excuse and your sticking to it, eh? When the GOP does it they're evil incarnate looking out for the wealthy but when the Democrats do it they're taking a principled stand. You folks can excuse anything when you put your little halos on.
What are you referring to?

Yes the GOP was behind this particular instance, I could care less.If it was democrats backing off Dodd-Frank I would be equally critical. I don't think it's a good idea to shutdown government to get your way but this certainly should have been an issue where the extreme left and far right came together.
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