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Old 12-15-2014, 09:44 AM
 
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Bingo...but this is where the Christians go back to their Old Testament roots.

But when you bring up some really bad stories of nihilistic behavior In the Old Testament, they then use the excuse that those texts are Jewish texts and have nothing do with the Christian faith.

They think they can have it both ways...mostly because few people call them out on it.

Matthew5:17"Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. 18"For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished.…

People excusing those texts shouldn't really be doing that unless we can really pick and choose what's ok and just ignore the things we don't like.

Kinda like making our own personal religion.
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Old 12-15-2014, 09:45 AM
 
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The only well known Christian left winger I can think of is Chris Hedges. I think Christianity is inherently a left wing religion, yet in America the Right has basically taken over it.
Nah, some of us are out there. We're called Episcopalians. Some are Lutherans, or at least one branch of the Lutheran church. And some Methodists.

Of course, the fundamentalist Christians have proclaimed that we are not "real".
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Old 12-15-2014, 09:49 AM
 
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Matthew5:17"Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. 18"For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished.…

People excusing those texts shouldn't really be doing that unless we can really pick and choose what's ok and just ignore the things we don't like.

Kinda like making our own personal religion.
Thanks. You're actually helping me make my larger case.

So Jesus basically reiterated his dedication to his faith (Judaism) because after all, he WAS a Rabbinical scholar.

So what's this Christianity stuff all about? Because Jesus surely had nothing to do with its founding, did he.
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Old 12-15-2014, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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The only well known Christian left winger I can think of is Chris Hedges. I think Christianity is inherently a left wing religion, yet in America the Right has basically taken over it.
You're wrong. Jesus closed the door to mixing politics and his message when he said "Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's." Anyone on the left or the right claiming they own Christianity are wrong.
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Old 12-15-2014, 10:15 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Frankly, I think it doesn't matter. Jesus was just one of many prophets back then, doing what he did was en vogue at that time. He was lucky enough he managed to find fans so that his babble survived.
Just like Judaism before Christianity, it is just a mix of all kinds of human views and ideas, taken from all kinds of older cultures. So I would not care too much what Jesus said or rather is supposed to have said. He was just a guy who liked to talk and enjoyed the attention. A lot of people today have much more meaningful things to say
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Old 12-15-2014, 10:16 AM
 
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Anyone on the left or the right claiming they own Christianity are wrong.
Maybe so. But anybody claiming that welfare recipients are undeserving leeches is definitely anti-Christ.
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Old 12-15-2014, 10:43 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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You're not even trying here. Read some profiles of standard Liberals on here for starters. It's common knowledge and their approval of pot.


WTF does approval of pot have to do with it? Furthermore, a pro-legalization stance is NOT exclusive to liberals!
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Old 12-15-2014, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Richmond/Philadelphia/Brooklyn
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Yes, actually, especially amongst African Americans, and Hispanics. A good percentage, if not a majority of them could fit under the category of religious, and left. After-all, Jesus was pretty much a socialist.
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Old 12-15-2014, 11:01 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Most are confirmed and confessed atheists. They even get angry when you even suggest anything else.
Link please. You stated it; you prove it. CD is not a good representation of the populace as a whole - on either side.
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Old 12-15-2014, 11:43 AM
 
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Today the situation is very different. Catholics are more benign and even progressive than protestants these days. Just look at zealous missionaries, they are for the most part not Catholics.


Since when was being anti-choice and anti-birth control considered progressive?
The policies of the catholic church are not benign, and are downright harmful and stupid.
And are particularly harmful to the poor who can least afford having unwanted children.
It is also harmful to society as a whole when these parents are forced to go on welfare
to support their unwanted children.

You could say the same thing about protestants. They are both equally stupid and backward religions.
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