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Let's say a terrorist has planted a nuclear bomb in an American city. It will go off in one hour. A million people will die. You capture the terrorist. He knows where it is. He's not talking. If you have the slightest belief that hanging this man by his thumbs, or some other method of torture, will get you the information to save a million people, are you justified in doing so? Not only is it permissible; it is a moral duty.
Anybody who say no is just as bad as a terrorist.
And if you don't believe that hanging this man by his thumbs will get you the information. Should you do it just because he's a bad guy and in some twisted way it makes you feel good to inflict pain on him?
And if you don't believe that hanging this man by his thumbs will get you the information. Should you do it just because he's a bad guy and in some twisted way it makes you feel good to inflict pain on him?
If I don't believe that hanging this man by his thumbs will get me the information, I will not do that to him, period.
and I don't feel guilty inflicting pain on a terrorist. Do you?
If I don't believe that hanging this man by his thumbs will get me the information, I will not do that to him, period.
and I don't feel guilty inflicting pain on a terrorist. Do you?
I've never inflicted pain on a terrorist, so I can't say what I would feel. At the least, I could not consider the terrorist to be not human. Even Charles Manson is a human being. Damaged, though. But I don't think I'd want to add to the damage.
I do think most terrorists are very committed to their causes. And that level of commitment should allow a terrorist to hold out against any torture for an hour if he's planted a bomb. And if the time frame is ten years, I think we can find better ways to get the information we want than torture.
I've never inflicted pain on a terrorist, so I can't say what I would feel. At the least, I could not consider the terrorist to be not human. Even Charles Manson is a human being. Damaged, though. But I don't think I'd want to add to the damage.
I do think most terrorists are very committed to their causes. And that level of commitment should allow a terrorist to hold out against any torture for an hour if he's planted a bomb. And if the time frame is ten years, I think we can find better ways to get the information we want than torture.
and I have never inflicted pain on ANYBODY, but I still would not feel guilty to inflict pain on a terrorist if I had to be the one doing it. I am just so glad that I don't have to.
Somebody have to make the sacrifices, I am glad I don't need to. So I don't criticize those who have to use interrogation techniques on these animals. Criticizing them is unfair and unjustified to me.
again,
"There is much to admire in those who refuse on principle ever to take up arms (or, in this case, torture) under any conditions. One should be grateful for the saintly among us. And one should be vigilant that they not get to make the decisions upon which the lives of others depend."
and I have never inflicted pain on ANYBODY, but I still would not feel guilty to inflict pain on a terrorist if I had to be the one doing it. I am just so glad that I don't have to.
Somebody have to make the sacrifices, I am glad I don't need to. So I don't criticize those who have to use interrogation techniques on these animals. Criticizing them is unfair and unjustified to me.
The problem is that we don't HAVE TO USE these interrogation techniques on these men. There isn't any proof that these techniques are effective. And there is a cost to using these techniques. Not only does it undermine the humanitarian message we want to spread to the rest of the world, but the people we task with torture are damaged by that. Just like if I forced you to dismember a living kitten. You'd have to live with that horror the rest of your life. Our soldiers that are asked to torture have to live with this, too. While you may call it a sacrifice on their parts, I think about the scars that they might carry with them. Needlessly.
The infliction of pain and suffering to the point that a person thinks they might die, or that they suffer long-term, even permanent, physical and/or mental damage.
Many left-wingers support gross human rights violations because they makes them feel better.
You're just mad because the way right-wingers have been scared into supporting torture disgusts me.
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