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Old 12-18-2014, 08:43 PM
 
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This is more scary than Gitmo. If this is a typical school principal, god help us and our children.
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These days, bringing an empty shell casing to school can cost you big time. Chanute Elementary School principal Gary Wheeler reduced a student to tears and threatened him with a 168 day suspension for bringing an empty shell casing to school.

Read more at Student Faces 168-Day Suspension For Empty Shell Case
Isn't Chanute KS republican. It's not the individual schools policy. It's the policy of the school board. So are you saying the school board is liberal. I doubt it. And that's not even a pic of the child in question. Why in the world would they show a kid crying when that wasn't even him. What sensationalism bull.
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Old 12-18-2014, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Iowa
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I read the article and still don't really understand why he took the shell to school. I understand that he thought it was cool, put it in his coat pocket, but then what?

I feel like this story is missing a key point- how/who/what/where any why the shell came out of his pocket?

By omitting this info, it becomes a "pro gun" propaganda piece which did what it set out to do- anger pro-gun citizens and attempt to recruit more.

(Great stock photo too. A bit ironic. ..)
You're not missing anything, that's what boys do. My 9 yo son will make a "gun" out of pretty much anything.
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Old 12-18-2014, 09:50 PM
 
Location: California
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A. there is nothing wrong with empty shell casings.
B. the proposed bill is lame and pointless
C. there are always going to be people who don't know how to apply logic and common sense to situations, and some are scared of the very real threat of being sued for not "doing something". Teachers, parents, posters on CD....all sorts of people.

We have to live with imperfection, it's part of life.
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Old 12-19-2014, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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I read the article and still don't really understand why he took the shell to school.
It really doesn't matter why.
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Old 12-19-2014, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Isn't Chanute KS republican. It's not the individual schools policy. It's the policy of the school board. So are you saying the school board is liberal. I doubt it. And that's not even a pic of the child in question. Why in the world would they show a kid crying when that wasn't even him. What sensationalism bull.
Hmmm.... I don't recall the OP having anything about "liberal" in it.
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Old 12-19-2014, 08:32 PM
 
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I'm not doing that.

The simple fact is that these sorts of things happen all over the country, at plenty of "excellent" schools.

Since my time there, my high school has employed perimeter fencing and security guards, and has banned going off campus for lunch. This is in a middle (now middle/upper) class neighborhood of southern California, and that's just the changes that I know of. Crime hasn't increased there and there have been no incidents to warrant these changes - they're just doing what schools do now, which is act more like prisons than educational institutions. Teaching has become more about crowd control than education.

So while I get your point that these things, while quite sensational, are relatively rare (I wish the anti-gun types would understand the exact same thing about mass shootings), they still happen, and how "good" a school is seems to be irrelevant to whether something idiotic like this can happen there. I'd even wager that the "good" schools are where these things happen the most, as those working at the "bad" schools have real threats to worry about and less time to bother kids about the shape of a pop tart or slice of pizza.

This is just reason #43895729 to homeschool. There are plenty more. It's not for everyone, and that's fine. I respect every parent's decision about how to best educate their children.
If you respect other people's way to educate their children, you wouldn't look down your nose at their schools as you have.
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Old 12-20-2014, 06:45 AM
 
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I can't imagine sending my kids to public school. It's a complete disaster, and the LAST thing on the administration's mind is education. It's all about liability and political correctness these days.

Is it any wonder that there's been a massive increase in homeschooling lately? I think not.
Do you read any of the media and post on here about Trevon, Martin, Ferguson and NY.

WAY too many lump all, whites, cops, etc. into one big racist pile.

I DO agree that it is NOT ALL public schools.

With that said, it seems that weekly, and has been going on for years, we DO get a story like this.

I also believe it is INCREASING.

Many have said, "my school wouldn't do such a thing" then, whoops, it happens.
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