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Old 12-24-2014, 02:16 AM
 
Location: California
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Originally Posted by Roadking2003 View Post
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I have not seen those posts.
You haven't? Well, if you'll allow me:

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I don't think people in this country really realize what poor is. I'll give you a hint. It's not what you see here.
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Old 12-24-2014, 05:18 AM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Originally Posted by middle-aged mom View Post
Looks like he used the money to feed 6-7 overweight homeless adults, hanging around a park, in the middle of the day.

Too bad the reporter did not make the time to talk to all of them.

The top three reasons for homelessness are addiction, domestic violence and mental illness.
It must have killed you to admit they were homeless. There was already a thread some time ago about why poor people are fat. Once again the deniers were out in full force. Threads that talk about the poor and homeless illustrate, very clearly, that many people are OUT OF TOUCH with just how poor some people are in this country. Some of you all don't have a clue.

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I have not seen those posts.
Temeku beat me to it....it always makes me laugh when people pretend things don't happen, when they happen all the time on this forum.

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spell check got to love it not a good typer but money is not a problem and I have a place to live
and still a loser should of took the money cleaned up got a job and the he could of helped a lot more.
The fact that you used "of" again instead of "have" when you wrote "should of" and "could of" shows everyone that is not a spell check error. That's ignorance. Perhaps you should learn proper grammar before you go looking down your nose at anyone else.

Just how far do you think $100 goes today? You imply that his whole life changed with that $100. Seriously, let's get back to reality.
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Old 12-24-2014, 05:58 AM
 
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You really don't get it, do you?

I wanted to be a linguist when I was younger too. I actually made it so far as to live in Japan and work as the sole Westerner in a large Japanese company, where I did translation work. I realized there wasn't much future or career development in it, and moved on to what I do now. It took me a few years to get there, but I started from the bottom. Doing stuff I really didn't want to until I found better opportunities.

There's no instruction book for life. You need to pull up your diaper and go out there and make it for yourself. You're still young and I guess you don't get that yet, but it will come to you someday, hopefully.
What do you do now? I tried electronic engineering but didn't like it, though a part of me regrets not going through with it. It's still better than being a waiter or mopping floors.
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Old 12-24-2014, 06:00 AM
 
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You hit the nail on the head. Two of the people saying the most of their situation about being poor live in one of the most expensive cities in the PNW. If they wish to continue to do so, they will have to make major sacrifices but from their posts both here and other forums they don't seem to be willing to do so. Always an excuse. They seem to want a hand out more than advice.

I moved from Portland because after 36 years of living there I could no longer afford the price tag. There was a time before that when I too was jobless and almost homeless due to a job layoff and difficulty finding permanent work. I did many of the things suggested here to pull myself out of it; school, part time work etc.

Guess what? It worked. I was in my 50's which made it even more difficult for me than these younger people complaining about how there are no opportunities for them because employers prefer to hire younger people.

The reason I could no longer afford Portland and had to move was because I became disabled and could no longer work so a decade later I made the choice to live in a city where I could be more self sufficient financially.

The thing is, you have to make choices. There are opportunities but you have to go out and work for them. If you want to live in a high price tag city you have to work and work hard. Otherwise go where life is easier. In other words, put up or shut up.
Moving isn't cheap; it costs thousands of dollars. Trust me I'd love to leave Portland, tired of this city, but without money in the bank nobody is gonna give you a lease anywhere. Hopefully in a year or two I can save enough to jump ship.
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Old 12-24-2014, 06:09 AM
 
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Taxation has nothing on usury, fractional reserve lending, fiat currency, and limited liabilities when it comes to theft. Educate yourself.
Again, everyone is operating under this system, yet many people succeed. Why am I doing great while OP is a loser?
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Old 12-24-2014, 06:15 AM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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No, there's not "starving in the street" type poverty like India or Africa generally speaking but I think many people, including a lot of Americans don't realize just how little a lot of people in this country have.

A third of Americans make less than $15,000 a year. You might argue "that's still millions compared to people in the Third World". Well not really and here's why.

In this country healthcare is largely paid out of pocket and a car is a necessity to 80-90 percent of people and maintaining one is not cheap. A typical one bedroom apartment will cost you $8,000 a year on its own and that's in a relatively affordable city. $15,000 isn't even enough to support a bachelor honestly and some people raise kids on little more than this amount! You're essentially forced to borrow and go into debt when you're making that little, so many actually have negative income.

If you're like me and avoid debt at all costs you're sharing an apartment with someone you didn't even know beforehand and living off $8 a day after bills are paid. If I don't budget that $8 a day well, or I have some kind of expense come up I borrow money, sell something or I starve. I haven't starved yet but there's been periods as long as a week where I have to think about what I'm going to sell to buy meals for a few days. Or risk straining my relationship with a family member by more or less begging them for a small loan. My parents' insurance runs out by the time I'm 26 and if I ever get a serious health problem I'll be screwed beyond reason. My only wealth is my decent health and my youth. I'm hoping my community college will accept my FAFSA but honestly it's more of a self esteem issue than anything else. I doubt that having a degree, if I can afford to finish one will improve my prospects much. I think this country is increasingly being divided into those who get lucky by having rich supportive parents or their ventures and ideas making them rich, and everyone else who lives off welfare or works jokes of jobs that pay less than peanuts.

Nice to see there are still a few with a heart not made of stone. Great post,and I agree!
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Old 12-24-2014, 06:16 AM
 
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Please. Feel free to leave and escape the legalized theft. Oh and I'd prefer if you didn't use any roads while doing so, so as to avoid stealing the usage of them from the rest of us. Thanks!
When people mention theft, I automatically think of the government. Why could that be?
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Old 12-24-2014, 06:28 AM
 
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Again, everyone is operating under this system, yet many people succeed. Why am I doing great while OP is a loser?
Did your parents pay for your tuition? What kind of job do you have? Do you have any mental illnesses?
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Old 12-24-2014, 06:29 AM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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When people mention theft, I automatically think of the government. Why could that be?

A MILLION virtual rep points for your 'SPOT-ON' observation! k:
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Old 12-24-2014, 07:27 AM
 
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Did your parents pay for your tuition? What kind of job do you have? Do you have any mental illnesses?
Not a cent.

I own my own company.

I'm a libertarian, so I must be nuts.
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