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Old 12-21-2014, 08:01 AM
 
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He sounds like a numbnuts loser who couldn't handle a relationship and she rejected him so he went off killed her and then sought to attack those he felt represented his failure as a person... the police. A convenient excuse no doubt shaped by the media garbage regarding Ferguson and NYC( some of which was actually somewhat justified).
As for the police and their response... welcome to the club, guys. Just about everybody is a target for somebody. Whether it be a rapist or a mugger or a burglar or elderly scammer or IRS chief. They have those they've chosen as victims and we all have to be on our guard. Just what we need, more nervous cops.

 
Old 12-21-2014, 08:04 AM
 
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The mayor blamed Garner's death on racism, a backhanded slap at the cops, the GJ, the DA.

He saw fit to say what a good man Garner was, didn't see fit to mention Garner's criminal record Nor that those cops were carrying out the mayor's strict enforcement policy.

His policy and rhetoric were anti-cop from the getgo.
There are two different things here. The wrong that was done and his culpability in it. He was right to note that justice was not done in this case but he should have personally apologized for his role in that.
 
Old 12-21-2014, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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So why didn't he do anything about the protestors (who were protesting in the streets illegally) chanting they want dead cops??? He's done very little to reign these protestors in. It feels like he's giving them free reign in NYC to do whatever they want.
They did an excellent job handling the protestors and walked a think line arresting those who went to far while allowing others some latitude. Those people that chanted we want dead cops are idiots, you can't arrest someone for being stupid, I would love to hear an interview with one of those protestors now.
 
Old 12-21-2014, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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He needs to speak for both sides he is the mayor, he was very critical of the 2 cops beat up last week to state that he isn't supportive of the PD is a little disingenuous. Does the PBA chief honestly think the mayor of a city doesn't care about policemen, this was just a vindictive overreaction and only escalates what is a very bad situation.
DeBlasio tried to play both sides here if you read enough articles with his comments.
It backfired.
 
Old 12-21-2014, 08:14 AM
 
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At least the guy shot himself, I cant imagine watching the conservatives contort themselves after they complained about the manhunts in Boston and PA.
 
Old 12-21-2014, 08:16 AM
 
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Both sides are hypocritical.

Moral equivalence. Cops shoot criminals, criminals shoot cops. What's the difference?

Every person in the "hands up, don't shoot crowd" is guilty of killing these two cops. They are no different than the "What do we want? Dead cops! When do we want it? NOW!" people.

DeBlazio is their leader and encourager. He wants violence and they are his instruments.
 
Old 12-21-2014, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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There are two different things here. The wrong that was done and his culpability in it. He was right to note that justice was not done in this case but he should have personally apologized for his role in that.
No. He was not right in saying justice was not done. That just fanned the flames even further.

He's entitled to his own beliefs, but in his position in this particular situation, he should've kept his mouth closed and said something along the lines of ...

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There may be people who believe that the GJ did not come to the right conclusion and perhaps our system is not perfect, but the decision must be respected.
He also could've made a statement saying that his administration would take a close look at reforming the nanny state laws of arresting people over what the public feels are very minor infractions. And I think if he did, he would've had a groundswell of support behind him.

But it was much easier for him to blame the police.
 
Old 12-21-2014, 08:19 AM
 
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At least the guy shot himself, I cant imagine watching the conservatives contort themselves after they complained about the manhunts in Boston and PA.
People should have complained about how they were carried out.
 
Old 12-21-2014, 08:23 AM
 
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Moral equivalence. Cops shoot criminals, criminals shoot cops. What's the difference?
Depends on the situation.

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Every person in the "hands up, don't shoot crowd" is guilty of killing these two cops. They are no different than the "What do we want? Dead cops! When do we want it? NOW!" people.
Why aren't those who have said. "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." guilty?

Wasn't Bundy cheered when he faced off with the authorities? Whose fault would it have been if violence had broke out there?

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DeBlazio is their leader and encourager. He wants violence and they are his instruments.
Do you always believe violence is wrong? We are only a country because we decided to incite violence.
 
Old 12-21-2014, 08:26 AM
 
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No. He was not right in saying justice was not done. That just fanned the flames even further.
It wasn't done. Unless those at the top acknowledge that nothing will change.

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He's entitled to his own beliefs, but in his position in this particular situation, he should've kept his mouth closed and said something along the lines of ...
I in no way shape or form respect wrong decisions.

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He also could've made a statement saying that his administration would take a close look at reforming the nanny state laws of arresting people over what the public feels are very minor infractions. And I think if he did, he would've had a groundswell of support behind him.
I noted he should have said that also.
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