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Old 12-21-2014, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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Loveladies oceanfront homeowners fighting access road, say beach would be too public | NJ.com

When Long Beach Township officials asked Robert Minke and his relatives to sign over some of their oceanfront property rights for the federal government to build a protective dune, the family was fine with the idea.

But when the township decided to use the south end of their property in the affluent Loveladies section as a public access road to the beach, that’s when the Minke family balked.
In a lawsuit filed in state Superior Court on Wednesday, the family contends the township went too far in trying to create a beach access road, which they say will turn their otherwise private spot into a public beach.

The case highlights the ongoing disputes over oceanfront property ownership in New Jersey where some residents own up to a certain point of the beach and the public is allowed on the section closer to the water. But where public access has been limited, some beaches have become almost private because few people go there.


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The government is to spend 100 million dollars to replenish those public beaches.
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Old 12-21-2014, 09:51 AM
 
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How about we let the market take care of things? Sell off all the "public beaches" and if people want to go to the beach, the owners will respond by allowing access at the market price.
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Old 12-21-2014, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Pa
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How about all those beachfront owners have to pay what insurance should really cost or accept what happens the next time a Hurricane tears up their property... Maybe we should condemn any property on the river fronts and beach fronts so the public won't have to keep footing the bill to rebuild them every other year..
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Old 12-21-2014, 10:07 AM
 
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I think the homeowners are in the wrong, but I can understand their concern of going from a relatively quiet and private area to a possibly very busy and loud area.

I think Tinman's point about fair market value of hurricane insurance is sound if they want to whine.
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Old 12-21-2014, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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The public does not deserve a day at the beach at the expense of property owners whose enjoyment of their property is diminished by the presence of the riff-raff. On a larger scale, this is communism. All public lands from NJ beaches to the Grand Canyon to the national forests should be sold to whomever can pay the most. The owners would then be free to charge whatever they wished to allow access, exploit them for their resource value, or preserve the lands for their own enjoyment without the masses trampling and despoiling them.
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Old 12-21-2014, 10:08 AM
 
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beaches should be public.
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Old 12-21-2014, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Typical NIMBY response when the government wants to grant access to the "riff raft"
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Old 12-21-2014, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Pa
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So the riff faff paying for a protective dune is ok, but it isn't ok to enjoy the beach? Why didn't the beach front property owners pay for their own protective dune?
This is a public beach we are talking about after all.
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Old 12-21-2014, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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beaches should be public.
They are public. The issue is access to those beaches.
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Old 12-21-2014, 10:22 AM
 
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They are public. The issue is access to those beaches.
yes I know and access should be available. we have wealthy folks on all the islands who allow growth of their ice plants grow out of control so they overtake some of the beach. then they put lounge chairs and tables out there so it looks like their property, discouraging the public from using "their" part of the beach.

the beaches should always remain public with access.
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