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De Blasio turned his back on his police force. To say the things he said, and continues to say, says everything about the character of this progressive ideologist.
A written message from Edward Mullins, president of the Sergeants Benevolent Association, addressed the mayor directly. “Mayor de Blasio,” it read in part, “the blood of these two officers is clearly on your hands.”
He (De Blasio) should be recalled. He and Sharpton should be tried for inciting these murders. The timing isn't a coincidence. They both deserve to share a cell.
Talk about inflammatory rhetoric. Is it your position that there are no bad cops? That they are all perfect and no innocent citizens have EVER been harmed?
Because we know that is not true. Why must we deal in absolutes? ALL cops GOOD - no complaints allowed. Period, stop, end of story.
Is this the America you want?
On the flip side - not all black men shot were innocent of wrongdoing.
There is no 100 RIGHT or 100% WRONG on either side and that is the position we are all arguing.
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Bad cops how? How about the perp OBEYING what the cop said? Maybe Mr Garner would be alive today IF he listened and obeyed. The dude had a mile long rap sheet. Sheesh!
Do you believe that there are bad cops? Anywhere? If so, what should we do about those that abuse their power without ruining things for the majority who do a good job?
Can we have an honest discussion about this or must be all believe that no policeman or person in authority ever abuse their power?
I thought that's why all conservatives are anti-gun control; at least that's the argument frequently espoused - that way the American people can never be completely controlled as in Hitler's germany.
He's a politician and was covering his own butt by throwing the cops under the bus to the media etc.
He was correct that justice wasn't done but he conveniently forgot to mention that it was his office that set the whole thing in motion.
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I'm not saying the police don't need improvement and don't have bad cops etc. but his commentary was a one-sided political attack and the cops have a right to be upset by it.
They are also upset at the hundred's of thousands of others that have called out their actions.
NYPD were revered heroes after 911. And rightly so. 13 years later protesters are chanting that they want dead cops and the mayor encourages and praises the "peaceful protests."
DeBlasio turned his back on NYPD - and they did the exact same thing in a very powerful moment. They didn't yell vulgarities or insults ... they very quietly responded to what they've perceived as an anti-cop rhetoric coming from the top.
What are you talking about? Stop and frisk is based on the exact same concept as being detained in a traffic stop. Both are constitutional.
You can not be searched in a traffic stop without probable cause. And it isn't the same. Driving is not a Constitutional right so they can ask for proof you are legally entitled to be driving.
They can't search someone simply for walking home. DeBlasio knew that is where the courts were going which is why he wanted the suit dropped. It wasn't because he wanted it stopped, he didn't want the courts to make it official.
De Blasio called Garner's death the result of racism. He said the mob attacks on cops were 'alleged' attacks. He said Garner selling loosies was a minor offense while those cops were doing what he and police brass wanted them to do --- strictly enforce that law. Among many other 'put it on the cops' rhetorical word games.
He went way beyond criticizing a cop for a specific action.
He also said about the death of Garner:
“We’re not just dealing with a problem in 2014, we’re not dealing with years of racism leading up to it, or decades of racism – we are dealing with centuries of racism that have brought us to this day."
You can not be searched in a traffic stop without probable cause. And it isn't the same. Driving is not a Constitutional right so they can ask for proof you are legally entitled to be driving.
They can't search someone simply for walking home. DeBlasio knew that is where the courts were going which is why he wanted the suit dropped. It wasn't because he wanted it stopped, he didn't want the courts to make it official.
They aren't really searching, it's a frisk. It's based on terry v ohio, which came down from SCOTUS.
This really is all the mayor's fault. He ended the stop and frisk policy that could have stopped the shooter. He pressed the civil cases against loose cigarettes that the nypd was enforcing. He criticized the police after garner. He promoted the "we want dead cops" protests. This is his tragedy.
What? Could have stopped it as if it was guaranteed that some cop would have frisked this dude.
That dead cops thing was not the majority of protestors. I'm still not sure which idiot thought that was a good idea and which sheeple went along with the chant. That is most certainly not the overall point of these protests.
Criticism is not a bad thing if it leads to better policy and behavior. He also "He acknowledged there would be protests, and urged New Yorkers to avoid violence. He praised William J. Bratton, his police commissioner, as an agent of change" So this notion that he hats cops and does nothing but dogs them is false.
You think this silly boy did the shooting because of the mayor? Is that the reason that he also shot his girlfriend?
They aren't really searching, it's a frisk. It's based on terry v ohio, which came down from SCOTUS.
LOL....the courts had ruled it illegal.....the higher courts would have and will at one point rule it illegal. They can not "frisk" you without a probable cause.
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