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Old 01-05-2008, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Eagan, Minnesota
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I watch CNBC religiously mainly because I work in the financial sector and have a strong interest in financial markets. One thing that I find ridiculous about CNBC is how they refer to Bush as "The MBA President". I mean, he received a MBA from Harvard but how has that made him a better person or a better leader/manager? According to Bush, "Harvard gave me the tools and the vocabulary of the business world" I guess, "nucular" would be one of the business terms he learned at Harvard? How can this guy be Harvard material? Something just does not add up.
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Old 01-05-2008, 08:06 AM
 
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I'm not really sure what this has to do with the 2008 presidential election?
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Old 01-05-2008, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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I watch CNBC religiously mainly because I work in the financial sector and have a strong interest in financial markets. One thing that I find ridiculous about CNBC is how they refer to Bush as "The MBA President". I mean, he received a MBA from Harvard but how has that made him a better person or a better leader/manager? According to Bush, "Harvard gave me the tools and the vocabulary of the business world" I guess, "nucular" would be one of the business terms he learned at Harvard? How can this guy be Harvard material? Something just does not add up.
People have misconceptions about the Ivy League educational institutuions. They think that only the "best and brightest" go to those schools. Nothing is further from the truth. If you give enough money to these schools, you can get a C student in them with little trouble. True that the "free" students (those that pay no tuition on 100% scholarship) are in fact the best and brightest but about 50% of the seats are reserved for "legacy students" that are students of rich alumni and benefactors that give lots of money to the school. That is why a complete idiot like Bush got in. I am not saying that I am opposed to this system- I think it is great that rich people are paying so that poor deserving kids can go to Harvard or Stanford- but they should be more open about it.
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Old 01-05-2008, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Eagan, Minnesota
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I'm not really sure what this has to do with the 2008 presidential election?
I meant to post it under Politics and other Controversies. Actually, I wanted to compare Bush's educational background with some of the other candidates. Obama has a B.A from Columbia and J.D from Harvard. I feel like he is Harvard material.
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Old 01-05-2008, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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I meant to post it under Politics and other Controversies. Actually, I wanted to compare Bush's educational background with some of the other candidates. Obama has a B.A from Columbia and J.D from Harvard. I feel like he is Harvard material.
He is Harvard material because his seat was not bought there.
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Old 01-05-2008, 08:25 AM
 
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People have misconceptions about the Ivy League educational institutuions. They think that only the "best and brightest" go to those schools. Nothing is further from the truth. If you give enough money to these schools, you can get a C student in them with little trouble. True that the "free" students (those that pay no tuition on 100% scholarship) are in fact the best and brightest but about 50% of the seats are reserved for "legacy students" that are students of rich alumni and benefactors that give lots of money to the school. That is why a complete idiot like Bush got in. I am not saying that I am opposed to this system- I think it is great that rich people are paying so that poor deserving kids can go to Harvard or Stanford- but they should be more open about it.
Just to be clear - we are talking about new science wing/multimillion dollar contributions here, and these admissions are far less prevalent than 50% of seats. While legacy status may be factored into the admissions equation, to imply that half the students at Harvard and Yale are rich legacies with 2.5 GPAs is a huge overstatement. If half their ranks were filled with low-performing upper class kids, their reputation would plummet quickly.
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Old 01-05-2008, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Turn Left at Greenland
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Not only did Mr. Obama go to Harvard Law, he was the first African American to be elected as the president of the Harvard Law Review (HUGE!). This man is a true American success story. He didn't have anyone to pull strings for him. He earned everything he's attained.
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Old 01-05-2008, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Just to be clear - we are talking about new science wing/multimillion dollar contributions here, and these admissions are far less prevalent than 50% of seats. While legacy status may be factored into the admissions equation, to imply that half the students at Harvard and Yale are rich legacies with 2.5 GPAs is a huge overstatement. If half their ranks were filled with low-performing upper class kids, their reputation would plummet quickly.
You may be right. Won't argue the numbers. They are still great schools but overrated as well. As I said, if rich folks want to donate big bucks to buy seats for their kids, it does not bother me because it means that deserving kids of working people have shot at going to a Harvard because they can go for free or for just room and board.
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Old 01-05-2008, 10:44 AM
 
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I watch CNBC religiously …..
Well there’s your problem………………
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Old 01-05-2008, 11:07 AM
 
Location: San Antonio-Westover Hills
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Well there’s your problem………………
I swear I was just going to post the exact thing. ROTFL!
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