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I don't agree with urban all that often (odd that is twice within 24 hours I've noted that) but he attempted to seriously address the question and what did he get for it? Posts filled with nothing more than hypocritical insults.
Why is it that conservatives seem to think 'liberals' are obligated to defend each and every single other person who might hold or think they hold similar beliefs?
Most shooters have no political affiliation, unless you count 'hating everything' as a political stance.
Breivik's rampage was the most truly political shooting I can think of.
Conservatives project their political sensibilities on liberals. They assume liberals think like they do. The American Right has a tradition of having a more top-down vertical integration style of political organization than the American Left.
If everyone were armed, deranged people would have second thoughts about mass shootings.
They my go after the person they feel hurt by, but to just go shoot up someplace, would be few and far between. They would not get far, without return fire. and the people cull the villain off the street. Freedom is not free.
Just trying to get a grasp on the double-standard employed by our resident Liberals here. Let's think back to when Jared Loughner shot Az. Congresswoman Gabby Giffords. Conservative rhetoric was blamed, including that of Sarah Palin where "crosshairs" were superimposed on a map of the Congresswoman's district....
heh. some loon actually disinterred that one from the grave yesterday on another thread..
Conservatives project their political sensibilities on liberals. They assume liberals think like they do. The American Right has a tradition of having a more top-down vertical integration style of political organization than the American Left.
I don't know any conservatives who assume leftists think like they do.
Leftists have a cognitive disorder that manifests in their inability to link cause and effect.
Just trying to get a grasp on the double-standard employed by our resident Liberals here. Let's think back to when Jared Loughner shot Az. Congresswoman Gabby Giffords. Conservative rhetoric was blamed, including that of Sarah Palin where "crosshairs" were superimposed on a map of the Congresswoman's district....
Or how about an incident that happened in Las Vegas this year and was in fact very similar to what happened in NYC this weekend. A man shot two officers, eating their lunch, and then proceeded to a nearby Wal-Mart where he declared the start of his own personal "revolution" before killing himself. Within hours of the story breaking, our Liberal friends on here speculated that "he was probably a Right wing nut job".... Then, after it was revealed that the shooter had spent time on the Cliven Bundy ranch when that whole mess was going on, our Liberal friends REALLY had a hay day with it.
But now that the shoe is squarely on the other foot, and we have a clear cut case of a deranged lunatic killing two cops who, according to his Twitter postings, obviously subscribed to leftist rhetoric over the killings of Michael Brown and Eric Garner, they're suddenly singing a different tune. Now they say there's no WAY you can blame biased rhetoric from Rev. Sharpton or Jessie Jackson for what this nut did. There's no WAY you can blame comments from the POTUS, the AG and even the mayor of NYC that basically call out cops as being biased and racist. There's no WAY you can (NOT) blame protesters who shout a demand for dead cops now, for what this despicable killer did.
Why is Conservative rhetoric a problem, but Liberal rhetoric is not? Why the change of heart? Or is it just hypocrisy?
Good post and thanks for pointing out the obvious hypocrisy of the lunatic left. But you're wasting your time if you think common sense and logic will with any points with them. You're dealing with people both seemingly incapable of rational thought and so devoted to their faulty belief system that you'll be denounced for pointing out the fallacy of their faith.
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Just trying to get a grasp on the double-standard employed by our resident Liberals here. Let's think back to when Jared Loughner shot Az. Congresswoman Gabby Giffords. Conservative rhetoric was blamed, including that of Sarah Palin where "crosshairs" were superimposed on a map of the Congresswoman's district....
Or how about an incident that happened in Las Vegas this year and was in fact very similar to what happened in NYC this weekend. A man shot two officers, eating their lunch, and then proceeded to a nearby Wal-Mart where he declared the start of his own personal "revolution" before killing himself. Within hours of the story breaking, our Liberal friends on here speculated that "he was probably a Right wing nut job".... Then, after it was revealed that the shooter had spent time on the Cliven Bundy ranch when that whole mess was going on, our Liberal friends REALLY had a hay day with it.
But now that the shoe is squarely on the other foot, and we have a clear cut case of a deranged lunatic killing two cops who, according to his Twitter postings, obviously subscribed to leftist rhetoric over the killings of Michael Brown and Eric Garner, they're suddenly singing a different tune. Now they say there's no WAY you can blame biased rhetoric from Rev. Sharpton or Jessie Jackson for what this nut did. There's no WAY you can blame comments from the POTUS, the AG and even the mayor of NYC that basically call out cops as being biased and racist. There's no WAY you can blame protestors who shout a demand for dead cops now, for what this despicable killer did.
Why is Conservative rhetoric a problem, but Liberal rhetoric is not? Why the change of heart? Or is it just hypocrisy?
Show me one speech where anyone of the Liberals you speak of talked about Armed revolution or the killing of law enforcement and then you will have a point.
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Good post and thanks for pointing out the obvious hypocrisy of the lunatic left. But you're wasting your time if you think common sense and logic will with any points with them. You're dealing with people both seemingly incapable of rational thought and so devoted to their faulty belief system that you'll be denounced for pointing out the fallacy of their faith.
It isnt a good post, not a single left wing pundit ever told anyone to kill cops or tell them to defend themselves with their right to bare arms against law enforcement.
for hypocrisy to exist, one would actually have to do the same thing as the other party and that just didnt happen, nice try though.
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If everyone were armed, deranged people would have second thoughts about mass shootings.
They my go after the person they feel hurt by, but to just go shoot up someplace, would be few and far between. They would not get far, without return fire. and the people cull the villain off the street. Freedom is not free.
Pretty sure those police were armed and he knew it.
I don't recall Sharpton, Jackson, Obama, Holder, or de Blasio calling for people to take action by shooting an officer. With that said, yes, you are seeing conservatives do the same as what liberals did when Giffords was shot. Neither is right, and the answer is that this would be a sign of hypocrisy from both sides.
Palin wasn't responsible for Giffords being shot, nor should any blood be on Palin's hands. Now I am not a Palin fan, and I think she has done lots of stupid things, but I don't think she would ever call for anyone to be physically harmed and neither would Sharpton, Jackson, Obama, Holder, or de Blasio.
Hey, nice post and I agree with you here!
Not to spoil your post......did you hear the latest from Charlie Rangel? The word "cracker" he has informed us is a word of endearment who would have ever guessed this one.
The issue with those you mentioned, besides Palin they're like Rangel, one just needs to know how to read between the lines. They say things that can be taken either way the wind blows.
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It isnt a good post, not a single left wing pundit ever told anyone to kill cops or tell them to defend themselves with their right to bare arms against law enforcement.
for hypocrisy to exist, one would actually have to do the same thing as the other party and that just didnt happen, nice try though.
Can you give us one person who has asked for it to stop for good. Union spokesman called for it to stop until the officers are buried! WTH is he thinking??? Why not calling it murder?? http://raycomgroup.worldnow.com/stor...-ny-mayor-says
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who would have ever guessed this one. 
