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Old 12-26-2014, 11:11 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Originally Posted by katzpaw View Post
Nobody gives flying faith what you put in your own front yard. The issue is government endorsement of a religion.
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But many do give a ... They say it is "offensive."
Specific examples?

 
Old 12-26-2014, 11:13 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Doesn't it? It either does, or it is an explanation of how God did it.

And why can't one believe there are unexplainable forces in the universe without believing the stories created by men attempting to explain them?
 
Old 12-26-2014, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Doesn't it? It either does, or it is an explanation of how God did it.
So if a letter is not "a", then it must be "b"?

You need to expand your mental space a bit.
 
Old 12-26-2014, 11:18 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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This liberal atheist doesn't care *at all* what you believe.

What I do care about - government favoring one religion over another, and government favoring any religion over non-religion.

What I do care about - teaching religious stories as science and/or history, without being supported by the standard avenues for peer-reviewed evidence.

Other than that, have at it.

Edited to add - I personally am not anti-christmas, nor do I know any other atheists or atheist organizations who are. If christians want to piggy-back their relatively recent celebration onto the ancient european solstice rites, that's great by me - the more the merrier!
I'm a religious Jew and I share those opinions.
 
Old 12-26-2014, 11:27 AM
 
Location: SW MO
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Believing that some mystical being created the earth is the antithesis of logic.
As is spending so much time and energy trying to insult and debunk the faith others have about something the atheists don't believe exists in the first place. What an absolute exercise in futility.

What those without faith are incapable of grasping is that another's faith cannot be argued. It just is!
 
Old 12-26-2014, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Stasis
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As is spending so much time and energy trying to insult and debunk the faith others have about something the atheists don't believe exists in the first place. What an absolute exercise in futility.

What those without faith are incapable of grasping is that another's faith cannot be argued. It just is!
Back 'atcha. This thread was started by a Christian spending so much time and energy insulting and attacking atheists. What an absolute exercise in futility.
 
Old 12-26-2014, 11:50 AM
 
Location: SW MO
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Back 'atcha. This thread was started by a Christian spending so much time and energy insulting and attacking atheists. What an absolute exercise in futility.
Agreed. It's decidedly a two-way street. Everyone should just enjoy and take comfort in their beliefs or lack thereof and leave it at that. However, lest it got past you, that's not the post I responded to.
 
Old 12-26-2014, 11:56 AM
 
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As is spending so much time and energy trying to insult and debunk the faith others have about something the atheists don't believe exists in the first place. What an absolute exercise in futility.

What those without faith are incapable of grasping is that another's faith cannot be argued. It just is!
Yeah, and you cannot argue those who don't believe. It just is.
 
Old 12-26-2014, 12:04 PM
 
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Old 12-26-2014, 12:17 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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Yeah, and you cannot argue those who don't believe. It just is.
Quite so, and I don't. It would be futile. As a general rule I ignore them to include one of my sons-in-law who is constantly on Facebook railing against people of faith of which I'm one. In that case I also pray for him, my daughter and my grandchildren.
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