Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 12-23-2014, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
86,052 posts, read 84,531,102 times
Reputation: 27720

Advertisements

And they are letting it expire. But it seems the damage is done because no one with money, either individuals or companies want to come to France anymore.

And what they did collect in 2 years came nowhere near fixing their financial problems.

As has been told many times over "taxing the rich" will not fix your problems.


https://news.yahoo.com/france-waves-...-business.html

The Finance Ministry estimates the proceeds from the tax amounted to 260 million euros in its first year and 160 million in the second. That's broadly in line with expectations, but tiny compared with a budget deficit which had reached 84.7 billion euros by the end of October.
..
But Delsol said the saga had made his clients more nervous about investing their time and money in France and had only added to mistrust of a complex tax system which successive governments have failed to reform.

"People have lost confidence," he said. "That is not something you can restore overnight."
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 12-23-2014, 10:10 AM
 
7,492 posts, read 11,835,038 times
Reputation: 7394
What's your point? That offshoring is okay in your book as long as richies keep their precious mullah? Here's a solution; anybody who wants to move their companies overseas loses their American consumer base.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-23-2014, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
4,761 posts, read 7,839,732 times
Reputation: 5328
Well, I guess the US needs to try it. After all, it failed because we didn't do it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-23-2014, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
86,052 posts, read 84,531,102 times
Reputation: 27720
Quote:
Originally Posted by Osito View Post
What's your point? That offshoring is okay in your book as long as richies keep their precious mullah? Here's a solution; anybody who wants to move their companies overseas loses their American consumer base.
That taxing the rich will not solve your problems.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-23-2014, 10:22 AM
 
11,086 posts, read 8,550,525 times
Reputation: 6392
Quote:
Originally Posted by Osito View Post
What's your point? That offshoring is okay in your book as long as richies keep their precious mullah? Here's a solution; anybody who wants to move their companies overseas loses their American consumer base.
France didn't just tax income made outside France.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-23-2014, 10:30 AM
 
34,619 posts, read 21,635,782 times
Reputation: 22232
Quote:
Originally Posted by Osito View Post
What's your point? That offshoring is okay in your book as long as richies keep their precious mullah? Here's a solution; anybody who wants to move their companies overseas loses their American consumer base.
Wow, so much lack on knowledge wrapped up in such a short post.

First, do you even understand "offshoring" and the tax implications?

Second, do you really not understand a global market? All your "solution" would do is mean that none of the companies selling the vast amount of consumer goods bought in America and made overseas could be American owned. Your solution would be that you essentially would not be able to buy an iPhone here but you could buy as many Samsung smartphones as you wanted. Do you think Apple would forgo billions of possible consumers overseas in favor of a few hundred million here?

I'm guessing you really didn't think that through.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-23-2014, 11:39 AM
 
56,988 posts, read 35,227,522 times
Reputation: 18824
Quote:
Originally Posted by HappyTexan View Post
And they are letting it expire. But it seems the damage is done because no one with money, either individuals or companies want to come to France anymore.

And what they did collect in 2 years came nowhere near fixing their financial problems.

As has been told many times over "taxing the rich" will not fix your problems.


https://news.yahoo.com/france-waves-...-business.html

The Finance Ministry estimates the proceeds from the tax amounted to 260 million euros in its first year and 160 million in the second. That's broadly in line with expectations, but tiny compared with a budget deficit which had reached 84.7 billion euros by the end of October.
..
But Delsol said the saga had made his clients more nervous about investing their time and money in France and had only added to mistrust of a complex tax system which successive governments have failed to reform.

"People have lost confidence," he said. "That is not something you can restore overnight."
Who ever thought that we should tax people at a %75 clip?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-23-2014, 11:58 AM
 
7,846 posts, read 6,409,783 times
Reputation: 4025
False equivalency.

France is not monetarily sovereign. The United States is monetarily sovereign. Falsehood #1.

Falsehood #2: Tax rates do not cause migration. California has the highest taxes on the rich in the United States, yet consistently has one of the highest rates of millionaire inward migration. Read the data. Tax flight is a myth that has constantly been debunked.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-23-2014, 11:58 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
78,863 posts, read 46,663,022 times
Reputation: 18521
Quote:
Originally Posted by desertdetroiter View Post
Who ever thought that we should tax people at a %75 clip?

Wasn't it Woodrow Wilson.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-23-2014, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
86,052 posts, read 84,531,102 times
Reputation: 27720
Quote:
Originally Posted by Opin_Yunated View Post
False equivalency.

France is not monetarily sovereign. The United States is monetarily sovereign. Falsehood #1.

Falsehood #2: Tax rates do not cause migration. California has the highest taxes on the rich in the United States, yet consistently has one of the highest rates of millionaire inward migration. Read the data. Tax flight is a myth that has constantly been debunked.
If you read the article it states that migration didn't happen.
But no new business/individuals that came to France. It shunned off new investments as people and business passed over France.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:01 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top