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View Poll Results: How long would a democratic president have to hold office before democrats stop blaming Bush for eve
0-8 years 1 1.59%
8-20 years 3 4.76%
20-100 years 10 15.87%
Never. Bush will always be their go-to excuse. 49 77.78%
Voters: 63. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-27-2014, 04:14 AM
 
Location: Whoville....
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When we are completely out of Iraq and Afghanistan and Guantanamo Bay, completely.
How long does a democratic president have to accomplish this before it's his fault we're still there?
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Old 12-27-2014, 04:16 AM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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Feel free to look up the 2009 recession and learn how it happened. If a recession happens when Obama is leaving office, then yes you can blame him for that recession.
I lived through the recession and remember it well but I am smart enough to understand just because someone is sitting in the big chair does not mean they are responsible. It is really ignorant to blame the president on things he has no control over so I will not be blaming Obama. I have working brain cells and I am not partisan.
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Old 12-27-2014, 05:50 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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He lied about torturing innocent people never convicted of any crime.
Which ones were innocent? I must have missed that news story.
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Old 12-27-2014, 06:21 AM
 
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People disagree with Obama all the time, that doesn't make someone a racist. Hating having a black man as president is what makes a person a racist.


You surely have not missed not liking a President, that just happens to be black, gets you called a racist around these pages.
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Old 12-27-2014, 07:02 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Just wondering how many years of democratic failure it would take before democrats stop throwing down the blame Bush card.
They'll quit as soon as the Bush Babies quit blaming Bill Clinton. Of the three, only one nearly bankrupted the country.
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Old 12-27-2014, 07:10 AM
 
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Which ones were innocent? I must have missed that news story.
Who were they? You don't even know if they were actual combatants...do you? The only thing you know is what Dick Cheney approved for you to know.

Since you don't know who these people were... or the reason they were detained...then the poster can claim their innocence. Innocent until proven guilty.

It you have any proof to the contrary present it.
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Old 12-27-2014, 07:15 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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http://www.newsweek.com/so-much-bush...-society-92163

Remember the ownership society?



Such a country would be more stable, Bush argued, and more prosperous.



The giddiness of the Bush years built on the promise of the New Economy era, a promise perfectly encapsulated by a 1999 billboard advertising a shiny new subdivision in Scroggins, Texas, filled with homes that most of their owners couldn't really afford: YES, YOU CAN HAVE IT ALL!


That dream took a sharp hit with the collapse of the Internet stock bubble in 2000-2001 and then with 9/11, both of which destroyed billions of dollars of wealth.


But it came roaring back in 2002, encouraged by Bush's post-9/11 exhortation that Americans could do their patriotic duty by going shopping and paying lower taxes, even as government spending exploded.



Shop they did, and homes they bought.
2002 was when W laid the groundwork for the crash in 2008. Here is his speech where he is talking about giving tax dollars to people who don't have them so that they can buy homes.

He knew all along that a LOT of those who would take advantage of this program would not be able to make the payments, and the property would eventually go into foreclosure. In the meantime the real estate companies aggressively used this program to push people into homes who should never have been able to buy one. A lot of the realtors loaned money themselves, and as soon as the mortgage was created it was bundled and sold and the money flowed to builders, realtors, and banks. When the crash came in 2008, the taxpayers were the ones left holding the bag. George will go down in history as the man who gave America to Wall Street. You can see the beginnings in the first two minutes of his speech.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNqQx7sjoS8
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Old 12-27-2014, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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How long does a democratic president have to accomplish this before it's his fault we're still there?
Fair question, this will not be resolved in the next 2 years the next president will have to deal with this or be prepared to ignore the impact of our complete departure from Iraq and Afghanistan. It's extremely complicated, there is some hope for Iraq but Afghanistan appears to be a totally lost cause.
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Old 12-27-2014, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Just wondering how many years of democratic failure it would take before democrats stop throwing down the blame Bush card.
Let's face it: if they are blaming Bush they are blaming Reagan. I am surprised none are blaming Ford, who was a do nothing leader.
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Old 12-27-2014, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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quote=dechatelet;37782534]The Democrats voted for both wars, and knew all about the "torture" -- never complaining it until until recently when it became politically convenient.

They also kept funding the wars that they claimed Bush lied to them about. If those wars were so wrong, why did they vote to fund them?

It was the Democrats who destroyed the economy by demanding that the federal government guarantee home loans to bad credit risks.

They insisted that not making those loans would be "racist" and unfair. If the liberals are right about Republicans being racist and only for the rich, then it doesn't make any sense to blame Republicans for the Great Recession.

Of course, you never heard about this from the lying liberal media.

History will judge Bush to have been a good if not great president dealing with a difficult situation (9/1/1) in a way that Democrats themselves wanted him to deal with it.

History will recognize what a bunch of liars liberals are. The truth cannot be hidden forever.[/quote]
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