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1. A large number of Democrats and Republicans signed the National Defense Authorization Act for the year 2012, which critics say allows for the indefinite detention of American citizens on U.S. soil without due process. President Obama pledged to veto the NDAA, but went back on his word and signed it into law with the indefinite detention provision included. Mitt Romney says that he would do the same.
3. The Bush-era Patriot Act, which allows for warrantless wiretapping, was passed with bipartisan support and recently extended by policymakers of both parties. Romney has voiced his support for the controversial legislation. Obama supported it as a senator and signed the extension into law as president.
5. The Democratic and Republican parties both generally support the vastly-growing use of unmanned aerial combat drones in the Middle East:
7. The Federal Reserve is allowed by both parties to continue to operate as an “independent government agency,” whose monetary policy decisions do not have to be approved by the president nor any other elected member of the executive or legislative branch. Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke was appointed by George W. Bush and re-appointed by Obama. Mitt Romney has flip-flopped on whether he would reappoint Bernanke, stating in 2010 that he would reappoint him, but stating recently that he would not reappoint Bernanke for a third term. Bernanke was reappointed for his second term in 2010 after a bipartisan vote of 70-30. However, the Audit the Fed bill has also received strong bipartisan support.
8. In an apparent direct conflict of interest, 130 Republican and Democratic congressional members have invested in company stocks while making legislative decisions that impact those same companies.
9. Democrats and Republicans both played a role in the founding of the Federal Reserve. Initial versions of the Federal Reserve Act were drafted by Republican Senator Nelson Aldrich and the final version was drafted y Democratic Congressman Carter Glass of Virginia, which then went to receive strong bipartisan support in Congress.
10. Both Republican and Democrats have allowed the Federal Reserve to inject trillions of dollars into the economy through their quantitative easing programs. While many Republicans including Romney have said they are against the third round of quantitative easing, neither party has or is likely to introduce bills aimed at regulating or halting quantitative easing altogether.
11. Republicans and Democrats love earmarks so much that even the bipartisan earmark moratorium, while greatly cutting back on earmarks, couldn’t stop the pork from being slipped into bills. Approved earmarks in 2010 totaled over $15 billion and the amount of requested earmarks in 2011 exceeded $129 billion. Citizens Against Government Waste reports that $3.3 billion has been approved for 2012.
12. Both parties and their national, congressional and senatorial committees have spent more than one billion dollars on their 2012 campaigns.
13. The Democratic and Republican convention committees each received $17,689,800 from the U.S. Treasury for their conventions in 2012 and an additional $600,000 to cover the cost of inflation. This is paid for through a voluntary check off on federal income tax forms.
14. Both parties are largely backed by the same corporate contributors and interest groups. Congressional members also receive contributions from many of the same interest groups. Both parties are heavily lobbied by corporate America — to the tune of $3.3 billion in 2011 and $1.68 billion thus far in 2012.
"Both parties are largely backed by the same corporate contributors and interest groups. "
15. The majority of both parties agreed that Wall Street should receive bailouts. The TARP bailout was signed into law by George W. Bush and initially drafted by Bush-appointed Secretary of Treasury– and Republican– Henry Paulson. Obama supported TARP as a senator and the bailout went on to receive overwhelming support from Democrats in the House. TARP also received largely bipartisan support in the Senate.
16. The same Wall Street TARP recipients who were top contributors to the Democratic presidential campaign in 2008 are now the top contributors backing the Republican presidential campaign in 2012. In 2008, Republican John McCain was backed by the same companies, although his campaign received less than the Obama campaign.
I was going to give this a chance, even after getting to #3,( which is completely untrue as the Obama administration removed warrant-less wiretapping), and after I realize this list you have never actually gave a break down of who did what, only that "some Democrats" and "some republicans" did something, but then i got to #12
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12. Both parties and their national, congressional and senatorial committees have spent more than one billion dollars on their 2012 campaigns.
LOL, your blog is arguing that spending a similar amount of money makes the 2 parties the same. That is beyond laughable.
I was going to give this a chance, even after getting to #3,( which is completely untrue as the Obama administration removed warrant-less wiretapping)
Just to keep the record straight his majesty DID NOT remove warrant-less wiretapping...
All his majesty did was update the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act to provide greater oversight and accountability to the congressional intelligence committees to prevent future threats to the rule of law.
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Just to keep the record straight his majesty DID NOT remove warrant-less wiretapping...
All his majesty did was update the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act to provide greater oversight and accountability to the congressional intelligence committees to prevent future threats to the rule of law.
the oversight that was added eliminated the "warrant-less" part of the wiretapping section, there for proving my point and meaning you are wrong and making me question the seriousness of your response.
Both parties are utterly despicable to me. They want mostly the same things; they only disagree on how to do it. It's like having one political party make tell you what to care about, and that's it. Bunch of fools. Why anybody would support either party is beyond me. They're both f***ed and they're f***ing all of us, and there's nothing we can do about it.
Just another hundred reasons on why voting and elections have become totally pointless in this country.
Matt Taibbi sums up the parties best when he penned " when the cameras are on the parties fight like bitter enemies but when the cameras and lights are gone they f*** like minks".
It is a dog and pony show and I see it for what it is and would have to be lobotomized before I would become a partisan to either of the pathetic parties.
Only stupid folks think there is a difference. I could see the politicians behind the scenes laughing at us about how a single letter, D or R cause so much anger. They gotta keep us divided in order to hold power. You foolish voters are so dumb.
Only stupid folks think there is a difference. I could see the politicians behind the scenes laughing at us about how a single letter, D or R cause so much anger. They gotta keep us divided in order to hold power. You foolish voters are so dumb.
This post would make more sense & would be more potent if the 'foolish & dumb voters' had another option enabling influence. Any plausible suggestions?
edit: dividing folks into 'voters' & 'non-voters' is still dividing.
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Neither party would outlaw abortion. Republicans need to issue to get out their voters, if you ban it your base stops caring about the issue while the Democrats will rally around it. Democrats are theologically opposed to banning abortion
Neither party would make large cuts to welfare / SS disability. Millions of rural Republicans live off of welfare rather than working (in many counties in Appalachia / the Ozarks HALF the income for entire counties is welfare). If Republicans cut the funds they could lose their base. Democrats generally like welfare programs so they wouldn't do anything either
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