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Old 12-30-2014, 04:36 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by DauntlessDan View Post
OP Obama is a dictator. Plain and simple. It is his way or the highway. That is the way dictators operate. Let him use his veto pen. I hope that the senate and house have the nerve to override his veto each and every time.
If he is a dictator, then it would not matter whether or not the Congress has a 'nerve' as they would not have the authority to create bills in the first place.
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Old 12-30-2014, 04:36 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The Democrats don't have to sound Conservative because the Republican Party will go wacko right. It'd be different if the Republicans would actually try passing more centrist legislation, but they're incapable of doing that. They can't help but go full tilt boogie wackjob right...it's in their bloodstream.

The Democrats will actually be more liberal than before as a party because the Blue Dogs have been defeated. What's the sense in being more conservative in that case? There is none. Republican voters have shown that they won't reward Blue Dog Democrats for opposing Obama.

Obama has never been in a better position. The split congress was bad for his presidency. The battle lines are much better delineated with Republicans having control over both houses.

That's funny! They were running from the guy in November.
If you have not noticed, the blue dogs were replaced with republicans, not more liberal Progressive democrats.
There isn't going to be enough spin, to keep Obama from being held accountable.
The people gave him the congress in which to work with or against.
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Old 12-30-2014, 06:23 AM
 
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Obama is going to start using his veto pen against the house and senate. The Republicans took the senate so now Obama has his veto pen ready.. any wonder.. Obama is not willing to compromise at all, never worked with anyone . Obama just sits in the white house and ignores the other branches of government.

But he does have another pen, the Veto Pen.

Obama To Congressional Republicans: I Have A Veto Pen And I'm Not Afraid To Use It - Business Insider
For the most part Senate Democrats will filibuster, so not much will get to President Obama unless it can get support from Senate Democrats.

My guess is anything that gets enough Senate Democrat support to not filibuster will be something President Obama can sign.
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Old 12-30-2014, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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The people will see the bills being vetoed over and over by Obama's pen.. nothing new. it is Obama's way or the highway...

Obama is far far left into the communist party thinking .. the democratic party leaning that way because of Obama.. they have no choice.. the dems are socialist leaning now.. the republican party have been pulled to the left , they now act as if they are the democratic party of years ago.. which was moderate .. the tea party are now the reborn Republican party and they are the true right wing. The older Republicans are democrats, the new tea party are republicans and the Obama progressive crowd are socialists that are lead around by the communists anarchists which use race, class and privilege, social issues to gain ground with the progressives..
" The people will see the bills being vetoed over and over by Obama's pen, nothing new. "

Thus far Obama has vetoed 2 bills, the same number as George Washington.
Bush2- 12
Clinton-37
Bush1-44
Reagan-78
Carter-31
Ford- 66
Nixon- 43

FDR holds the record at 635 vetos, followed by Cleveland at 414.

The Pension Benefit Guarantee Corp has never guaranteed 100% of insolvent private pension plan payments. To do so, it would require socialization of all private pension plans.
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Old 12-30-2014, 07:57 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Obama is going to start using his veto pen against the house and senate. The Republicans took the senate so now Obama has his veto pen ready.. any wonder.. Obama is not willing to compromise at all, never worked with anyone . Obama just sits in the white house and ignores the other branches of government.

But he does have another pen, the Veto Pen.

Obama To Congressional Republicans: I Have A Veto Pen And I'm Not Afraid To Use It - Business Insider
If he was Italian he would be Barack "Veto' Obama.

The most wonderosu thing is obama could only get away with a statement like that if he owned the media....and he does. Anyone else try that and they would be excoriated.

Too bad Obama ddn't whisper, 'Tell Boehner that I'll have more latitude after the election". He's saving all his love for Putin.

Now Obama will go on record for his positions. Positions Reid protected Obama and the dems from making publicly.

Now if we just had some journalists......
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Old 12-30-2014, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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If the democratic party didn't push Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as being in good shape to Bush the crisis wouldn't have happened in the housing market.. because Bush wanted to inspect the housing market and the democrats moves so the housing market investigation never was.. Barney Frank and Maxine Walter fought it. Bush compromised and when he did , the democrats blamed him.. so what is new?
If I recall both chambers at that time were Republican. But somehow Barney Frank prevailed.

As the housing bubble inflated, FNMA and FHLMC lost substantial market share because so many of the loans being written at the time did not conform.

The housing bubble was global. South Africa and New Zealand experienced substantially greater bubbles than the U.S., in terms of unsustainable compounded appreciation. That Barney Frank sure gets around, eh.
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Old 12-30-2014, 08:04 AM
 
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For the most part Senate Democrats will filibuster, so not much will get to President Obama unless it can get support from Senate Democrats.....
That option is lost to them. Harry Reid already pulled the nuclear option so they could get that bankster loving Mel Watts confirmed to watch over the banks. Now they will pay the price for it. If it hasn't already happened, Watt has given them approval to start back the sub-prime lending nonsense again.

Oh yeah, and Mel Watts, a 20 year congressman from a court ordered gerrymandered district designed to elected a black representative (by court order) never ran in a real election. No coincidence that it's the same district as the HQ of Bank of America.

Lovely bunch those Democrats. Banksters & Wall Streeters love them.
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Old 12-30-2014, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I didn't call Christians bigots. I called anti-gay people bigots. They are not the same thing.

And you just keep doubling down. Prove Obama sent the IRS after them. You haven't proved any of your other spurious claims yet, I guess I don't expect you to try and prove that either. lol.
Obama is dirty , dirty , dirty..
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Old 12-30-2014, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The point is that he signed the bipartisan spending bill and you spent a whole week complaining about him NOT vetoing it, and now you open a thread to preemptively complain about him vetoing bills in the future. Clearly you have already decided to complain no matter what he'll do, or won't do.

Based on your comments on the pension issue you are a mile to the left of them.

I hope you find your peace, because I don't know how you operate with so much resentment in your heart.
I am more moderate than you because I look at American people and how it will affect them.. blue collar as well.. you want compromise and then chastise someone who is moderate.. you are a strange one indeed.
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Old 12-30-2014, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Florida
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If I recall both chambers at that time were Republican. But somehow Barney Frank prevailed.

As the housing bubble inflated, FNMA and FHLMC lost substantial market share because so many of the loans being written at the time did not conform.

The housing bubble was global. South Africa and New Zealand experienced substantially greater bubbles than the U.S., in terms of unsustainable compounded appreciation. That Barney Frank sure gets around, eh.
It was a house of cards.. and the American people suffered . When Bush compromised, the dems attack when it fell,then they attacked him over issues they wanted compromise on.. kind of weird don't you think?

The dems idea of everyone owning a home... whether one could afford it or not.. the whole mess was corrupt. There is no truth in our government and many greedy people today. Lies, manipulation and usury .. this government will implode eventually. that is what you get when you kick morality, ethics and God out of the country. This country has reaped what it sowed.
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