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Old 01-02-2015, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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US consular officials were asked by Palestinian-Americans to view damage to their land caused by illegal Jewish settlers. In recent weeks Jews have been uprooting thousands of olive tree saplings located on Palestinian owned land. "When the visitors arrived, a number of settlers pelted them with rocks. American security guards armed with M16 rifles confronted their assailants as the consular officials quickly retreated."
Destroying farm land, affecting it's yield and income, is a favorite tactic of Jewish settlers to force Palestinian land owners to give up and leave.

Jewish settler colonists stone U.S. officials in occupied W. Bank

 
Old 01-02-2015, 04:35 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Just got to love the Ultra Orthodox Jews. They want nothing to do with the State of Israel, but they want the land and want secular Israeli's to protect them. The Israeli gov't has dismantled the Jewish settlement numerous times, yet they still come back as even the Israeli gov't considers them illegal. It's a catch-22 issue where in one hand the Israeli gov't has to remove them and on the other hand has to protect them. As to the American version versus the Israeli version, we'll have to wait until after the Sabbath to read who says what about the events.

Keep in mind that the following statement was made by one of the Arabs and it goes both ways since the Arabs see these Jews as settlers and the Jews see the Arabs as squatters.

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Destroying farm land, affecting it's yield and income, is a favorite tactic of Jewish settlers to force Palestinian land owners to give up and leave.
 
Old 01-02-2015, 05:22 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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In addition if this were an actual Olive Tree farm then there would be old tree growth somewhere in the area. Here is a 2009 video of the area where the Arabs claim the same thing. but notice there are no actual Olive tree groves in the background.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oic-CtdPWTQ

This is what Olive tree groves should look like:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODUTo5rkyC0
 
Old 01-03-2015, 09:02 PM
 
Location: No Mask For Me This Time, Either
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Why are US consular officials, let alone security officers, involved in anything to do about a bunch of stupid olive trees? This is for the neighborhood to settle, by whatever means.
 
Old 01-03-2015, 09:09 PM
 
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Originally Posted by katzpaw View Post
US consular officials were asked by Palestinian-Americans to view damage to their land caused by illegal Jewish settlers. In recent weeks Jews have been uprooting thousands of olive tree saplings located on Palestinian owned land. "When the visitors arrived, a number of settlers pelted them with rocks. American security guards armed with M16 rifles confronted their assailants as the consular officials quickly retreated."
Destroying farm land, affecting it's yield and income, is a favorite tactic of Jewish settlers to force Palestinian land owners to give up and leave.

Jewish settler colonists stone U.S. officials in occupied W. Bank
Certainly both sides play that game. If the Palestinians were not so divided and one leader could make peace as they should have under Carter then this would be lessened. the fact is no Palestinian leader can make peace without likely suffering assassination.
 
Old 01-03-2015, 09:26 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Certainly both sides play that game. If the Palestinians were not so divided and one leader could make peace as they should have under Carter then this would be lessened. the fact is no Palestinian leader can make peace without likely suffering assassination.
let's think a moment on what I bolded. How many leaders have they had since the fall of the Ottoman Empire and the creation of the Mandate? 3? 4 at the most in the past 90 years? The only way the Palestinian people can move forward is to get rid of all the leadership they have now. Do you realize that Abbas is in the 11th year of his 4 year term or that their congress is in the 10th year of their 4 year terms?
 
Old 01-04-2015, 04:14 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Why are US consular officials, let alone security officers, involved in anything to do about a bunch of stupid olive trees? This is for the neighborhood to settle, by whatever means.

Well.........

Some of the Jews are American transplants and some of the Arabs are American transplants, so somehow they are trying to use their American citizenship's to pull some fools from the consulate who didn't know into the middle of this issue which has gone on since 1998. Give the Palestinian Authority enough time and they will call the region that this outpost sits in as North Jerusalem.
 
Old 01-04-2015, 05:31 PM
 
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Haredim are dangerously inbred (srsly), this affects their judgement and reasoning considerably.
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