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Old 01-03-2015, 03:31 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Another win for the gun rights movement. Michigan has just become a "shall issue" state for ccw gun permits. This means that anyone that can pass a back ground check can get a concealed weapons permit without government officials arbitrarily denying some people because of political beliefs.

Today, Governor Rick Snyder (R) signed Senate Bills 789 and 790 into law. These important pro-gun bills create a more efficient, consistent and expedient concealed pistol licensing process through the creation of a true “shall issue” licensing system for all statutorily eligible Michiganders.

This legislation eliminates county concealed weapon licensing boards as well as the discretionary licensing authority currently held by those boards. With the elimination of the county licensing boards, county clerks will administer the concealed weapon licensing process. Background checks that are statutorily required to obtain a Concealed Pistol License (CPL) will be conducted by the Michigan State Police (MSP). However, the MSP would not retain the discretionary authority currently held by the county licensing boards because SB 789 mandates that all persons who statutorily qualify for a CPL (i.e. not prohibited under 28.425b and satisfy all financial and submission obligations) would receive a license.

https://www.nraila.org/articles/2015...eform-into-law
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Old 01-03-2015, 03:33 PM
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Its a shame anyone even has to ask permission.
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Old 01-03-2015, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Another win for the gun rights movement. Michigan has just become a "shall issue" state for ccw gun permits. This means that anyone that can pass a back ground check can get a concealed weapons permit without government officials arbitrarily denying some people because of political beliefs.

Today, Governor Rick Snyder (R) signed Senate Bills 789 and 790 into law. These important pro-gun bills create a more efficient, consistent and expedient concealed pistol licensing process through the creation of a true “shall issue” licensing system for all statutorily eligible Michiganders.

This legislation eliminates county concealed weapon licensing boards as well as the discretionary licensing authority currently held by those boards. With the elimination of the county licensing boards, county clerks will administer the concealed weapon licensing process. Background checks that are statutorily required to obtain a Concealed Pistol License (CPL) will be conducted by the Michigan State Police (MSP). However, the MSP would not retain the discretionary authority currently held by the county licensing boards because SB 789 mandates that all persons who statutorily qualify for a CPL (i.e. not prohibited under 28.425b and satisfy all financial and submission obligations) would receive a license.

https://www.nraila.org/articles/2015...eform-into-law
Was someone ever denied because of their political beliefs ????
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Old 01-03-2015, 03:36 PM
 
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Its a shame anyone even has to ask permission.
It is, but I still appreciate a positive move in the right direction.
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Old 01-03-2015, 03:38 PM
 
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Was someone ever denied because of their political beliefs ????
The sheriff/state police would deny because of their anti gun beliefs. The same thing is still happening here in CA in many counties, including the one I life in. Since anti gun democrats control the legislator here we will not see any change via law, but we have made great strides in the court with multiple pro gun rulings.
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Old 01-03-2015, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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The sheriff/state police would deny because of their anti gun beliefs. The same thing is still happening here in CA in many counties, including the one I life in. Since anti gun democrats control the legislator here we will not see any change via law, but we have made great strides in the court with multiple pro gun rulings.
Do you have any documented proof of this happening in Michigan , or did someone just claim it happened ????
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Old 01-03-2015, 03:44 PM
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It is, but I still appreciate a positive move in the right direction.
Yes I agree.
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Old 01-03-2015, 03:45 PM
 
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Do you have any documented proof of this happening in Michigan , or did someone just claim it happened ????
If it wasn't happening why would they pass two laws to prevent it?
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Old 01-03-2015, 03:59 PM
 
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Michigan has been a 'shall issue' state since July 2001.

10 years after concealed weapons law, unclear why many in state were gun-shy | Detroit Free Press | freep.com

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These new laws appear to be a simple stream-lining of the current process.
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Old 01-03-2015, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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I am all for laws to keep guns out of the hands of people who should not have them and I think it is great that Michigan is stream lining the system. Here in Mass. the police chief in the town that you live has the final say if you get a license and what type of restrictions it has. If you were a good citizen that was known to the chief or others on the police force it wasn't a hassle. If you were not so good and had a history with the police guess what. This is a better setup then a "board" like Michigan had. When this type of scrutiny was first introduced in Mass. there were some chiefs that didn't think anyone should have a concealed weapon so even if you had a license to do so for the past 30 years your license might be downgraded when it came time for renewel. I haven't heard about situations like this anymore so that problem may have been rectified. There was a lot of flack in the towns that had these tough chiefs.

If you want a license for a gun and you are not a convicted felon or a nut job then you should get your license.
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