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Old 01-04-2015, 06:38 AM
 
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Here we go again...the "big business" (in this case, oil) boogeyman. Ooohhh...scary.

Strange how the only business that can do no wrong is Big Apple.
I have always wondered about the liberal obsession with apple products. there are other brands out there if you want to overpay for electronics made from chinese slavery.
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Old 01-04-2015, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I have always wondered about the liberal obsession with apple products. there are other brands out there if you want to overpay for electronics made from chinese slavery.
Are there statistics based on party affiliations on who buys Apple products? I know plenty of people who own iphones etc and it does not seem to have anything to do with politics.
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Old 01-04-2015, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Kind of a silly thank you because the oil industry is not there to lower gas prices for you - that's not their goal. You know, that whole capitalism thing? The companies in the oil industry would prefer gas prices to stay as high as possible because they make the most profit that way. The real reason gas prices are declining are because OPEC decided to push production in an attempt to undercut US producers. OPEC nations can produce and profitably market oil at a much cheaper per-barrel price than the USA, due to the nature of extraction methods required here. You make it sound like American oil companies are "returning hundreds of dollars" to your pocket because they have your best interests in mind...that's naive as it is ridiculous.

Also, all that record oil production...why did it occur under Obama and not under some member of the Bush dynasty? If Obama was stifling oil production so much, we would be at an all-time LOW, not HIGH.

Oh, and by the way, how come this is all occurring without Keystone XL? :roll eyes:

Finally, none of this is "saving" Obama. Things are about the same for him: which is to say, kinda crappy. What this whole situation points out is that conservative ballyhooing over how horrible Obama was for oil production was way overdone.
Let me guess... you support raising the minimum wage to a "livable wage", don't you?

Oil companies, just like any other industry, are not interested in keeping prices "as high as possible", because that leads to speculation and progress in alternative energy sources. The goal of any business or industry is to maximize profit, not to gouge the consumer. You don't maximize profit by pricing your product out of reach of the common man, you maximize profit by making your product affordable to the median wage earner. If you price it too much lower, you aren't making a profit per item. If you price it too much higher, you aren't making a profit because not enough people are buying your product. Econ 101.

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Also, all that record oil production...why did it occur under Obama and not under some member of the Bush dynasty? If Obama was stifling oil production so much, we would be at an all-time LOW, not HIGH.
Because the administration can't stop production on private lands under current law. Oil and natural gas production are down roughly 6% and 28% respectively since 2009 on federally owned land due to the actions of this administration. Oil production on private land is up by 61% over the same time period. So, Obama is trying to stifle oil production and is succeeding in his efforts on federal land. However, private industry and private land owners have neatly sidestepped him due to - gasp - profit. I know that's a dirty word in the mind of most liberals, but when it comes right down to it greed is what makes the world go 'round.
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Old 01-04-2015, 08:54 AM
 
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I have always wondered about the liberal obsession with apple products. there are other brands out there if you want to overpay for electronics made from chinese slavery.
So only Democrats have iphones? Please.

Is your assertion that conservatives carry only flip phones made in the USA?



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Are there statistics based on party affiliations on who buys Apple products? I know plenty of people who own iphones etc and it does not seem to have anything to do with politics.
Agreed.
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Old 01-04-2015, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Florida
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So only Democrats have iphones? Please.

Is your assertion that conservatives carry only flip phones made in the USA?
A true conservative uses one of these. Or maybe they use a landline, I don't know.

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Old 01-04-2015, 09:04 AM
 
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A true conservative uses one of these. Or maybe they use a landline, I don't know.
I thought true conservatives use two cans with a string attached.

http://herdingcats.typepad.com/.a/6a...f82795d970c-pi

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Old 01-04-2015, 11:40 AM
 
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Are there statistics based on party affiliations on who buys Apple products? I know plenty of people who own iphones etc and it does not seem to have anything to do with politics.
it's just from my own experience. liberals seem to love the fruits of chinese slavery. don't get me wrong. conservatives do as well, just not from apple products.
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Old 01-04-2015, 11:41 AM
 
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So only Democrats have iphones? Please.

Is your assertion that conservatives carry only flip phones made in the USA?





Agreed.
it's not hard to determine my point. apple is a left wing mecca. they create products made in china and with slave wages. don't hate the reality.
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Old 01-04-2015, 02:40 PM
 
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If only big oil lobbyists would get out of the way, we could use solar.
And solar would still be much more expensive which manufacturers would pass the cost down to the consumers.

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Solar will provide us a good 5 billion years worth of power. The problem is, the sun is accessible to every land-bearing organism on planet Earth. If everyone can get a piece of sun, capitalists (the "1%) can't profit off of it..
Right.....

A Scarcity of Rare Metals Is
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In 2011, the average price of 'rare earth' metals shot up by as much as 750 percent

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Thin, cheap solar panels need tellurium, which makes up a scant 0.0000001 percent of the earth’s crust, making it three times rarer than gold.

You actually believe the garbage you spout?

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Solar? To get 10 terawatts by 2050, Lewis calculates, we'd need to cover 1 million roofs with panels every day from now until then. "It would take an army," he says. Obama promised green jobs, but still.
http://www.newsweek.com/begley-do-we...-we-need-76491
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Old 01-04-2015, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Florida
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it's just from my own experience. liberals seem to love the fruits of chinese slavery. don't get me wrong. conservatives do as well, just not from apple products.
OK, i'm still waiting for the statistics showing conservatives don't buy apple products.
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