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That's fine, you are free to avoid any product of "big business". Don't own a car or buy oil or gas. Don't have electricity in your house (after all, energy companies are "big business". Don't own a smart phone (or any phone for that matter). All-you guessed it, big business. Oh, that computer you're typing on-better ditch it. Oh, want to eat? Agriculture is one of the biggest businesses in the country.
I'm sick of ignorant liberals constantly bashing business, while understanding squat about it. They seem to think everything they consume grows on trees and delivers itself to the supermarket or WalMart all shrink wrapped and ready to go for them. I for one would like to see business thrive in this country. I like what businesses offer, in the form of products, jobs, tax revenue and yes, a steady increase in my 401k. Unlike most liberals I don't see anything romantic about the though of living in a cave and picking nuts and berries.
This is the most tired straw-man argument that corporatists trot out time and again. Not supporting business being in bed with government while cartelizing certain industries (energy is a good example) is not "bashing business." Business of course can thrive in a truly capitalist system, unlike the crony capitalist system we have now. It's sad that a "conservative" such as yourself believes all the lies the government and big business tell you before they tuck you into bed.
People like you are the reason that the GOP will remain forever in the pants of Wall St. and the system will never change. You, in your supreme ignorance, equate "capitalism" and "business" with "big business" and "corporatism." The biggest swindle, perhaps in all of American history, happened in autumn of 2008 when Wall St. and their bedfellows in Washington proceeded to nearly crash the global market place through a breathtaking sequence of failures, corruption, and incompetence. Then they convinced all of us they needed trillions of dollars in bailouts without a single person being held accountable or any fundamental examination of how we arrived at such a place. George W. "To save capitalism I need to abandon capitalism" Bush and the rest of neoconservatives and neoliberals in government signed off while their useful idiots in the media pimped it for them and the sheep squealed their approval.
This isn't a Republican or a Democratic issue as George W. Bush, Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, John McCain, Mitt Romney, and Paul Ryan all supported the bailouts. The above mentioned all also support neverending militarism, corporate welfare, the Federal Reserve system, NAFTA/WTO and other "free" trade ideas, etc. We aren't really given a choice during our elections but rather the illusion of choice to keep the sheep in line, and a few meaningless wedge issues thrown in to make it appear that there are differences and to keep "Team Red" and "Team Blue" more or less equal and the ground troops divided.
Most of the businesses you mentioned are heavily subsidized by taxpayer dollars. In fact they all suckle the from the golden teat of the corporate welfare trough. Energy, Agriculture, and car makers are all backed by the full force and funding of the United States government and taxpayer dollars. I understand how business and capitalism work, at least how they should. I know enough to understand that what we have in America is some bizarre crony capitalist system. Socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor.
LOL, the only thing standing in the way of solar is the exorbitant cost and other factors like portability.
Actually no. My point stands. It is the oil lobby.
With solar, all you have to do is build the frigging thing. Then you have 5 billion years worth of power, barring a damaging event that breaks a panel.
Actually no. My point stands. It is the oil lobby.
Specifically reference what the oil lobby(or even the fossil fuel industry) has done to prevent solar.
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With solar, all you have to do is build the frigging thing. Then you have 5 billion years worth of power, barring a damaging event that breaks a panel.)
They have a lifespan of about 20 years, by default they "break". When you are comparing energy sources you need to consider all costs over the lifetime of the unit. Then you divide the years into those costs to gt a per year cost. Power plants have a lifetime too. When all costs are considered solar is no where near the cost of fossil fuels. If it were we wouldn't need subsidies and mandates because the private sector would be trippng over itself trying to get the product to market.
Specifically reference what the oil lobby(or even the fossil fuel industry) has done to prevent solar.
They have a lifespan of about 20 years, by default they "break". When you are comparing energy sources you need to consider all costs over the lifetime of the unit. Then you divide the years into those costs to gt a per year cost. Power plants have a lifetime too. When all costs are considered solar is no where near the cost of fossil fuels. If it were we wouldn't need subsidies and mandates because the private sector would be trippng over itself trying to get the product to market.
And also the fact that solar power plants are not as reliable as Opin_Yunated and others believe (the whole 5 billion years of energy thing ) It's true even in sunny California, the sun doesn't always shine.
And end up relying on fossil fuels just to operate and proved electricity to consumers
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The Ivanpah Solar Electric Generating System in the Mojave Desert, lauded by U.S. Energy Secretary Ernest Moniz at its opening last February, is having problems matching the initial boasts of how much electricity it would produce.
Given a $1.6 billion federal loan guarantee, the plant only produced 254,263 megawatt-hours (MWh) of electricity from last January through August, and in the following four months, only 189,156 MWh. As reported by Greentechmedia, original estimates asserted that there would be over 1 million MWh produced yearly, but based on how much was produced in the first eight months of 2014, only 600,000 MWh would be produced.
In March, the plant’s owners, NRG Energy, Google, and BrightSource, asked for approval from California regulators to use 60% more natural gas in their auxiliary boilers than the plant’s certification had specified
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This is the most tired straw-man argument that corporatists trot out time and again. Not supporting business being in bed with government while cartelizing certain industries (energy is a good example) is not "bashing business." Business of course can thrive in a truly capitalist system, unlike the crony capitalist system we have now. It's sad that a "conservative" such as yourself believes all the lies the government and big business tell you before they tuck you into bed.
