Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Occupy was unorganized and unfocused, but there was truth in their core message: That Wall Street was playing by a different set of rules than the rest of America, and it was to the country's detriment. Most people, both liberal and conservative, agreed with that.
Even right winger Bill O'Reilly has been critical of the Wall Street operators and big investment banks like Goldman Sachs that almost brought down the entire financial system. And then they get bailed out by the U.S. taxpayers. Wall Street's motto: "socialise risk, privatise profits".
Status:
"everybody getting reported now.."
(set 22 days ago)
Location: Pine Grove,AL
29,550 posts, read 16,539,320 times
Reputation: 6033
Quote:
Originally Posted by lionsgators
they failed because eventually you have to take a shower in something other than a public sink.
No they failed because Occupy was literally the protest and the protest only, there was no organization or organizing, no leader, no infrastructure. Those who spread the word about it wanted it to be truly organic and it was, but without any organization, it faded.
How would a social movement know if they will fail? The Civil Rights Movement could've said they had no chance of succeeding but in many respects they did. They underestimated their opponent: a corrupt 2 party system with 2 conservative parties and a propaganda spewing corporate media. They had no powerful allies and evil will always succeed when there is no one strong willing to do right.
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
44,572 posts, read 81,167,557 times
Reputation: 57803
Organized movement or not, the protesters should have though a little bit more about what they were doing, when and where they were doing it. Of the "99%" almost 90% are working to make a living, and do not appreciate being prevented from getting to work, get home from work, have their vehicle or business vandalized by a movement that truly represents only the bottom 5%, not the 99%. The rest of us, in one way or another, depend on Wall Street whether we want to admit it or not.
Even right winger Bill O'Reilly has been critical of the Wall Street operators and big investment banks like Goldman Sachs that almost brought down the entire financial system. And then they get bailed out by the U.S. taxpayers. Wall Street's motto: "socialise risk, privatise profits".
Exactly. Those points crossed partisan lines, at least for most average Americans. However, after a while, without any real organization, the movement faded.
US protests are so lame. It was called occupy wall street, but in reality they occupied a park on the other side of town? Yeah, really going to make a difference there.
Just goes to show how much of a totalitarian police state the US is. Too bad wall street wasn't literally occupied and burnt to the ground. That would have been cool.
Occupy was unorganized and unfocused, but there was truth in their core message: That Wall Street was playing by a different set of rules than the rest of America, and it was to the country's detriment. Most people, both liberal and conservative, agreed with that.
i can go along with this.
Quote:
Originally Posted by lionsgators
that was their core message? I thought it was about drum circles, not wearing shoes, trespassing, and smoking dope.
no, that was the method they used to try and get their point across, and in that they failed.
Quote:
Originally Posted by dsjj251
No they failed because Occupy was literally the protest and the protest only, there was no organization or organizing, no leader, no infrastructure. Those who spread the word about it wanted it to be truly organic and it was, but without any organization, it faded.
even with good organization, they would have failed, and the reason for that failure was the perception of the occupy movement. they were seen as trespassers, dope smokers, moochers, and violent when they didnt get what they wanted.
the other thing they did was overstay their welcome massively. the people were willing to listen what the occupy movement had to say, for a couple of weeks. but at some point the occupy movement needed to pack up and go home, and clean up after themselves, instead they continued to "occupy" public places, and impede the general public from enjoying those spaces, as well as creating an eyesore.
it was the movement itself that caused the failure, and no amount of organization would have helped them after a point when there was no decorum observed by the occupy movement.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
