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Old 01-04-2015, 07:47 PM
 
Location: City of Angels
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IMHO you're right. Tho what the US needs to do is slap a tax on oil to keep it at 50 dollars a barrel on any that's imported. In other words; if a barrel's going for 30, then tax it 20. If oil goes OVER 50 dollars, then the tax goes off. THAT would kill OPEC real quick.
How much does it cost to produce crude oil and natural gas? - FAQ - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

Production costs are well above $50/bbl for many fields in the US.
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Old 01-04-2015, 08:21 PM
 
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Other US fields are about 40 a barrel.
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Old 01-04-2015, 08:34 PM
 
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So set off a war on oil at even greater levels? One has to remember what even a 15% reduction in oil did during the embargo. We actually should have allowed crude export long ago to make market work even better. The market should decide as always. First congressional hearings on refineries when it has been known that no new refinery is cost effective just expansion which has been done. Then hearings on oil prices being manipulated. Now some proposing government manipulated the price.
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Old 01-05-2015, 12:04 AM
 
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IMHO you're right. Tho what the US needs to do is slap a tax on oil to keep it at 50 dollars a barrel on any that's imported. In other words; if a barrel's going for 30, then tax it 20. If oil goes OVER 50 dollars, then the tax goes off. THAT would kill OPEC real quick.
Lol...And you're willing to pay more at the pump to maintain that tariff?

I doubt it.
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Old 01-05-2015, 12:41 AM
 
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It's the easiest oil to get out of the ground and refine period. That era will end when the last well runs dry or we stop using oil.
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Old 01-05-2015, 01:48 AM
 
Location: Someplace Wonderful
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The age of Arab oil will only end when the age of oil ends.
The last I looked (and my info may well be outdated) the Saudi lake is now below 50& which means that under current circumstances, they can look forward to declining production.

OTOH, what would fracking do for their reserves?

Sometimes things are not so simple as they appear.

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Old 01-05-2015, 06:22 AM
 
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Lol...And you're willing to pay more at the pump to maintain that tariff?

I doubt it.
The alternative is allowing them to put US producers out of business and drive the prices back up much more once that has been accomplished.
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Old 01-05-2015, 06:26 AM
 
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Lol...And you're willing to pay more at the pump to maintain that tariff?

I doubt it.
I would pay more. Right now gas is about 2 dollar a gallon with oil over 50 a barrel.
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Old 01-05-2015, 07:02 AM
 
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The alternative is allowing them to put US producers out of business and drive the prices back up much more once that has been accomplished.
What's the quid pro quo for the American consumer?

Do you want economic patriotism as a goal for any other product? You willing to tariff that BMW or cheap Chinese made train set...or furniture made in Taiwan'
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Old 01-05-2015, 08:04 AM
 
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What's the quid pro quo for the American consumer?

Do you want economic patriotism as a goal for any other product? You willing to tariff that BMW or cheap Chinese made train set...or furniture made in Taiwan'
When a nation(s) is dumping products on the market with the end goal of monopolizing the market that is when the government needs to step in. Long term the cost of oil is not going down no matter what happens. The only way you are going to break the back of OPEC and insure reasonable energy prices long term is to insure US producers are not pushed out of business with monopolistic practices.

You can pay a little now or pay a lot more later.
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