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The game is almost over. The Republicans are backing away from their anti-gay rhetoric. The group that was the main opposition to marriage equality - the National Organization for Marriage (NOM) - is broke and in debt and in disarray. For them it is like a Greek Tragedy, going through the motions of trying to put on a brave face ... but it's over. Historical analogy: Richmond has fallen and Lee's tattered remnant of an army is wearily marching towards Appomattox.
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Originally Posted by Votre_Chef
Watching the anti-equality crowd continue to resist must be what it was like to watch Grant chase Lee to Appomattox: everyone knows the war is over, but it just has to play out to the bitter end.
Hey, Votre_Chef I used that historical analogy first!!!!
I wasn't aware that city halls/courthouses did wedding "ceremonies". I thought you just went to city hall for the wedding license (legal proof you are married) and then went elsewhere for the ceremony. Friends and family may accompany you to city hall to witness the paper signing and then gather for photos but there is no public servant participating in or leading a "ceremony". Are things done differently on Florida?
How does not performing a ceremony stop or affect the issuing of marriage licenses?
You can do a wedding at the courthouse. My husband and I got our license at the courthouse and then had our local Judge come to the house a couple of weeks later to perform the ceremony. The courthouse wedding just seemed too indifferent. Here in Texas you have to get the license beforehand (even if you are doing a church wedding), you aren't married when you get the license, you have to have a ceremony later, whether religious or not.
Even though they only have "equal rights" as far as the court goes. The largest church in the US(Along with most of the major churches) do not recognize their marriages. Their dreams of having their weddings in a church is still broken.
??? What on earth do you mean? Plenty of churches will perform same-sex marriages. And have been performing commitment ceremonies for some years now, in states that do not recognize same-sex marriage.
And by the way - it is the government that issues marriage licenses and a government court that enforces equal rights.
Synagogues? LOL most of them aren't Jewish either. The largest church in the US(And the world) still doesn't recognize them. Many gays grew up in a church and still try to push their gay weddings to the church. Straight marriage will always be seen as the "real marriage" no matter if the states allow them in the courts. Its not the same to get married in a court as opposed to a big wedding with a lot of people with a priest is it?
You're right, it's quite different. Only the government can issue marriage licenses and enforce marital rights.
Oh I get it. I have misunderstood you. You think churches should be required to officiate at same-sex marriages?
Good to know that you acknowledge that many churches oppose equal rights for all american citizens.
Its Church Doctrine and what about the rights of the Church to practice their religion? I can see some Gay Activist suing the Catholic Church, how sad.
Just because a Activity is passed thru Judges and Lawyers does not mean people will accept a downward life style. In New Mexico 2 business were sued because they refused to work for gay weddings. These people can choose, do business and not do business , because it goes against their Religious Views.
You can do a wedding at the courthouse. My husband and I got our license at the courthouse and then had our local Judge come to the house a couple of weeks later to perform the ceremony. The courthouse wedding just seemed too indifferent. Here in Texas you have to get the license beforehand (even if you are doing a church wedding), you aren't married when you get the license, you have to have a ceremony later, whether religious or not.
This Goes back to civil unions which are fine because we have a free society. Plus its Gov. and is and always about fee's.
But do not call it a Marriage which usually means before God. Reconcile that at the end of ages.
This Goes back to civil unions which are fine because we have a free society. Plus its Gov. and is and always about fee's.
But do not call it a Marriage which usually means before God. Reconcile that at the end of ages.
Sure, I'm good with a final accounting "at the end of ages". As long as in the meantime, adult american citizens can legally marry the people they love, and the government upholds the rights that go along with marriage for everyone.
Hey, Votre_Chef I used that historical analogy first!!!!
No problem, it makes a good point!
Because the Court has bypassed the rule of law.(mans Law) So the many have backed away from this issue. But I can guarantee most of the GOP have strong Belief that Marriage is one man and one women.
Its Church Doctrine and what about the rights of the Church to practice their religion? I can see some Gay Activist suing the Catholic Church, how sad.
Just because a Activity is passed thru Judges and Lawyers does not mean people will accept a downward life style. In New Mexico 2 business were sued because they refused to work for gay weddings. These people can choose, do business and not do business , because it goes against their Religious Views.
Someone gets it right..thank you for conscious clarity
I don't care who you are with... I don't care how you live your life... forcing me to accept you through government action however only turns me steadfastly against your cause ...
I don't have to personally accept this nor will I... if I have my private business and I object to any activity I will not serve you
As a public servant you will receive the same level of care.. but privately.. nope ..I will never honor gay marriage
Freedom... where does it start and stop..
The constitution says it all...
Liberals want no lines anywhere ...we will ultimately reap the negative effects of their actions
Next marriage of inanimate objects or animals...
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I can see some Gay Activist suing the Catholic Church, how sad.
