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If they are rioting and looting hell ya. I don't consider shooting dirtbag criminals murder btw.
Criminals are humans with rights. Criminals get the right of due process.
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Originally Posted by 3~Shepherds
I think this is harsh, taser and ass kicking might be better.
How much do you want to bet, if two or three are taken down, how many more will step forward to break windows and set fires?
Criminals are not animals. Your statement is vile.
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Originally Posted by Haakon
Prosecuting law breakers as it should be.
Do you understand what kind of regime YOU are describing? You think mob rule and anarchy is Ok?
People have learned nothing since Martin Luther King.
I hope you are able to see the distinction I am trying to point out. In no sense do I advocate evading or defying the law, as would the rabid segregationist. That would lead to anarchy. One who breaks an unjust law must do so openly, lovingly, and with a willingness to accept the penalty. I submit that an individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for law.
But of course what todays "protesters" really want is carte blanche to riot, loot and assault without being prosecuted.
No. What makes you an expert on what the 99%+ of the peaceful protesters want?
Have you participated in any of the protests?
They want a fair criminal justice system.
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Peaceful or not, the leaders of this protest knew they were breaking the law. Most of the people who participated thought they were engaging in a peaceful and legal protest. But even they never thought to look past their own actions and see what their protest was going to do to the thousands of other people trying to shop, nor how it would adversely affect shop owners on one of the busiest shopping days of the year.
Criminals are humans with rights. Criminals get the right of due process. Criminals are not animals. Your statement is vile Your racism is blatantly vile.,,No. What makes you an expert on what the 99%+ of the peaceful protesters want Have you participated in any of the protests? They want a fair criminal justice system.
Seems that you have concluded the rioters are criminals. Then using your own standards, they should be charged with crime. Case closed.
Since you are lobbing charges of racism, what is your definition of this word?
This here......one thing to protest another to destroy buildings and injuring people. Charge everyone of them for blocking streets and the loss of income others had to endure.
Yeah, money matters more than lives, right?
The point of protesting is to disrupt normal activity so that people become aware of the problem. These particular protestors did not loot, they did not burn, they did not hurt people. They simply kept people from going to stores. Wow!
The police were the ones who decided to close the stores, btw.
The city should go after the police who kill black people with the same zeal they are going after the protestors with.
Can the Mall of America block free speech on their premises because the corporations lose money? Can they choose who can assemble on the property? Last year, for example, the Mall allowed around 7,000 people to gather in the same rotunda to honor a young white man who died of cancer. Suburban malls are public spaces serving the same function as the old town square used to. Why should the average American be silenced by corporations?
I say fine them to cover court costs and restitution for the stores that were forced to close then give the protestors community service hours to be carried out in a predominantly black neighborhood.
They were offered a location outside of the mall to legally protest but instead chose to protest inside on private property fully knowing they would be charged. They made their choice, now they should live with their decisions. They selfishly punished innocent citizens who did nothing wrong. If they had protested outside the mall they still could have gotten their message across, even before people entered the mall.
Can the Mall of America block free speech on their premises because the corporations lose money? Can they choose who can assemble on the property? Last year, for example, the Mall allowed around 7,000 people to gather in the same rotunda to honor a young white man who died of cancer. Suburban malls are public spaces serving the same function as the old town square used to. Why should the average American be silenced by corporations?
Do you understand what kind of regime YOU are describing? You think mob rule and anarchy is Ok?
People have learned nothing since Martin Luther King.
I hope you are able to see the distinction I am trying to point out. In no sense do I advocate evading or defying the law, as would the rabid segregationist. That would lead to anarchy. One who breaks an unjust law must do so openly, lovingly, and with a willingness to accept the penalty. I submit that an individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for law.
But of course what todays "protesters" really want is carte blanche to riot, loot and assault without being prosecuted.
This is the real danger in just ignoring the Mob Actions when they openly break laws.
It does lead to even more lawlessness and a Mob Rule type of mentality.
NOBODY is above the Law, there are NO "special" people who should just get a PASS on the Law.
Not the Police Officers and not the Mobs ..... we have Laws and a Judicial Process. We have to use them, OR lawfully change them as needed. Mob Rule is not an answer and neither is a type of "street justice".
So you want American citizens murdered because you don't agree with them?
It's one thing to protest and have your voice heard. It's quite another to incite fear in the public, cause harm to innocent people, or destroy private property.
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If they are rioting and looting hell ya. I don't consider shooting dirtbag criminals murder btw.
Play stupid games win stupid prizes. I have no sympathy for anything bad that happens to looters or those bent on harming innocent people and destroying private property.
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