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Old 01-07-2015, 05:50 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Originally Posted by desertdetroiter View Post
That's unnecessarily draconian, arbitrary, and somewhat hateful.

Triple the mandated sentence? Why not quadruple or more?

The guy isn't a hardened criminal...2 years is plenty. You could even make a case for half that much.

Americans! Geez...You guys wanna give people the guillotine for looking at you cross eyed.

It's like a contest to see how punitive one can be. Gimme a break..a non hardened criminal should do 30 years (10 is the max sentence) for taking bribes?

I'd hate to see what you'd do to someone for spitting on the ground.

The elected official position, should be held accountable and the threat of a long sentence if they get convicted, may keep them from thinking about the illegal act.

With all that power handed to them, they need to be shot if they are caught screwing us.

 
Old 01-07-2015, 05:52 AM
 
Location: Florida
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he should have gotten 10 years+

any politician who accepts bribes or pushes a corporation should be impeached/recalled and jailed.....

that includes Obama and his solindra bribes
How much money did Obama receive from Solyndra?
 
Old 01-07-2015, 05:52 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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So what did he do again?
He did nothing that was illegal per Virginia law. I don't understand how the Feds got jurisdiction in STATE politics. Shouldn't they be going after Bill Clinton for giving free nights in the White House for donations?
 
Old 01-07-2015, 05:58 AM
 
Location: S.E. US
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he should have gotten 10 years+


any politician who accepts bribes or pushes a corporation should be impeached/recalled and jailed.....


that includes Obama and his solindra bribes
I think many in political circles are guilty of accepting all kinds of deals that are made available on the fringes of legislation about to be passed. Whether one calls it "taking advantage of" or "returning favors" or a quid pro quo kind of vote, it seems to me to be in the same category. Biden taking our money to build a runway that only gets couple flights a week is just as shameful when that money could have been used to help people who really need it. Is that not buying votes?

Note that this man got 2 years for endorsing/pushing a diet supplement. How many endorse products they have never used and get paid for it?

Note that people in high places like Obama are free to defraud the people any way they chooses; and Pelosi and Reid (with all their deals on the side) and the rest of their kind get off without so much as a slap on the wrist.
 
Old 01-07-2015, 06:02 AM
 
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Yup.

He was a great christian man who did all sorts of wonderful things for the 'little people'.

Except his moral compass (isn't that what Christians preach about?) was set at zero and he sold the most sacred office in the state for personal gain.

Sadly it is a closed loop system of graft, appointments and political favors which led to a slap on the wrist sentence.

IF he ever serves any time, he'll be quickly back on the street, remorseful, closer to god, and looking for the next scam to line his pockets. Two years hardly dissuades a douche politician from engaging in untoward behavior.
 
Old 01-07-2015, 06:04 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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How much money did Obama receive from Solyndra?
uknown how much Obama received

but

the Solyndra scandal, a few months before the “clean energy” enterprise went belly-up last week, the Obama Energy Department signed off on a sweetheart deal. In the event of bankruptcy — the destination to which it was screamingly obvious Solyndra was headed despite the president’s injection of $535 million in federal loans — the cozily connected private investors would be given priority over American taxpayers. In other words, when the busted company’s assets were sold off, Obama pals would recoup some of their losses, while you would be left holding the half-billion-dollar bag.

The criminal law, by contrast, is not content to assume the good faith of government officials. It targets anyone — from low-level swindlers to top elective officeholders — who attempts to influence the issuance of government loans by making false statements; who engages in schemes to defraud the United States; or who conspires “to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof, in any manner or for any purpose.” The penalties are steep: Fraud in connection with government loans, for example, can be punished by up to 30 years in the slammer.

Although Solyndra was a private company, moreover, it was using its government loans as a springboard to go public. When the sale of securities is involved, federal law criminalizes fraudulent schemes, false statements of material fact, and statements that omit any “material fact necessary in order to make the statements made . . . not misleading.” And we’re not just talking about statements made in required SEC filings. Any statement made to deceive the market can be actionable. In 2003, for example, the Justice Department famously charged Martha Stewart with securities fraud. Among other allegations, prosecutors cited public statements she had made in press releases and at a conference for securities analysts — statements in which she withheld damaging information in an effort to inflate the value of her corporation and its stock.

That’s exactly what President Obama did on May 26, 2010, with his Solyndra friends about to launch their initial public offering of stock. The solar-panel company’s California factory was selected as the fitting site for a presidential speech on the virtues of confiscating taxpayer billions to prop up pie-in-the-sky clean-energy businesses.



oh and Obama wasn't the first solyndra tried to swindle.... Solyndra had first tried to get Energy Act funding during the Bush administration, but had been rebuffed shortly before President Bush left office.
 
Old 01-07-2015, 06:08 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by southward bound View Post
I think many in political circles are guilty of accepting all kinds of deals that are made available on the fringes of legislation about to be passed. Whether one calls it "taking advantage of" or "returning favors" or a quid pro quo kind of vote, it seems to me to be in the same category. Biden taking our money to build a runway that only gets couple flights a week is just as shameful when that money could have been used to help people who really need it. Is that not buying votes?

Note that this man got 2 years for endorsing/pushing a diet supplement. How many endorse products they have never used and get paid for it?

Note that people in high places like Obama are free to defraud the people any way they chooses; and Pelosi and Reid (with all their deals on the side) and the rest of their kind get off without so much as a slap on the wrist.
correct...like Pelosi (who owns a tuna factory) exempting the Samoan workers from the 'new' min wage in 07/09 at her and her husbands factories....

it is fraud, plain and simple
 
Old 01-07-2015, 06:12 AM
 
Location: Florida
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uknown how much Obama received
It is also not known if he received anything. McDonnell didn't go to prison because someone made unfounded claims in the internet, he went to prison because he was officially found guilty. I deleted the rest of your post because it was an attempt to derail the thread.
 
Old 01-07-2015, 06:13 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Yup.

He was a great christian man who did all sorts of wonderful things for the 'little people'.

Except his moral compass (isn't that what Christians preach about?) was set at zero and he sold the most sacred office in the state for personal gain.
His faith has nothing to do with it. Even Christians are capable of mistakes. He is paying for his, so that's good enough for me.
 
Old 01-07-2015, 06:21 AM
 
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Originally Posted by desertdetroiter View Post
That's unnecessarily draconian, arbitrary, and somewhat hateful.

Triple the mandated sentence? Why not quadruple or more?

The guy isn't a hardened criminal...2 years is plenty. You could even make a case for half that much.

Americans! Geez...You guys wanna give people the guillotine for looking at you cross eyed.

It's like a contest to see how punitive one can be. Gimme a break..a non hardened criminal should do 30 years (10 is the max sentence) for taking bribes?

I'd hate to see what you'd do to someone for spitting on the ground.
I wouldn't say all Americans. I'd rather most non violent offenders get house arrest with a curfew and other regulations. No money out of my pocket to pay for them committing a crime.
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