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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber
I have not seen reefer madness, but I doubt it was about 2014 crime statistics in Denver.
Again, why is an alleged decline in crime credited to pot, but an increase is not? One day they claim there is a connection, and the next they argue there isn't
Hypocrisy at its best.
You need to learn when you are being played.
NONE of which explains your baseless allegation of the crime rate increase being due to legalized cannabis, an allegation unsupported by the very article YOU link to.
YOU are the one attempting to play people, anyone with an objective view is rejecting that.
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Drug crime is up 20% in Denver, so obviously the legalization has attracted people who also use other drugs, and they will commit crimes to feed their habits.
The only obvious thing here is your reefer madness and willingness to assign blame to your little bête noire when no supporting evidence exists.
NONE of which explains your baseless allegation of the crime rate increase being due to legalized cannabis, an allegation unsupported by the very article YOU link to.
YOU are the one attempting to play people, anyone with an objective view is rejecting that.
Why don't you go to the thread which incorrectly claims crime is down because of legalization of pot, and declare crime being up, or down has nothing to do with pot.
This thread is a response (and a correction) to the claims crime is down because of pot.
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber
Why don't you go to the thread which incorrectly claims crime is down because of legalization of pot, and declare crime being up, or down has nothing to do with pot.
This thread is a response (and a correction) to the claims crime is down because of pot.
IF it really were you would've posted something factual in that thread supporting your allegations, eh? It's just more unsupported by fact reefer madness, nothing more.
IF it really were you would've posted something factual in that thread supporting your allegations, eh? It's just more unsupported by fact reefer madness, nothing more.
The crime statistics are facts. You find them inconvenient, so you resort to your reefer madness commentary.
That's where you are incorrect. Legalizing cannabis will stop people from getting arrested for smoking a non toxic plant. It will open up the police to attend to more important matters - unsolved rapes, property damage, missing children, etc. It will save tax payers a ton of cash by eliminating the atrocious court costs/procedures, will further hinder the black market, make it safer as it will be sold in stores with carding involved (we know drug dealers don't card), and it will lose it's appeal of being a "taboo" (numbers are down in MM states for teenage usage already), and will stop ruining otherwise law abiding citizens from having their lives destroyed for future jobs/housing/etc. The cost of the drug war is insane and we would save a TON of money cutting their funding. Let them go after the drugs like meth, crack, and other ones that have a real impact on society. Plus the drug war has turned people against the police. Cut out busting people for cannabis and I bet police would be looked upon more favorably. Plus the fact we all know police make a ton of money from grants for cannabis arrests and they get to "keep" the money/cars/houses seized. Right now they hardly have enough people applying to become cops because of the current corrupt system. So yes it is a important priority for all those reasons. Don't always look at the surface.....
All good points, and I'll bet a few of those cops pinch the stash from a bust, and take some for themselves. Know what I mean? All for me, but none for thee!
Not unless you are the mugged and your wallet is snatched to 'help a guy get high' right?
I don't know of any stoners robbing mugging someone for their wallet, so they can buy weed. Heroin or meth addicts??? Well, now maybe you'd have something there.
And IF that were to happen, it would only be further proof that the GOP is THE party of Huge Government, Big Brother, nanny-state BS when the LIE they always trot out is that they are "small government."
Such complete horsepucky.
The Republican Party has been completely devoid of any true conservatives for decades. They utterly abandoned true conservative practices, ideals and principles back around the time of the Fall of Saigon.
They're no better than the democrats in terms of expanding the government, and intruding in our private lives, and it's why I vote libertarian, which in essence is where the true conservatives are.
True conservatives were never socially liberal to a point where they would support drug legalization. On the contrary, they have always supported socially conservative moral values (even using the Bible as their moral compass), and legalized drug use it pretty far from it. Republicans turning socially liberal is a fairly new thing.
Oh what a crock of s***!!! Your morals are not mine, and vice versa! My morality is between myself and the man upstairs! Also, could you explain again how locking up or causing legal problems for cannabis users is moral? Yeah criminalizing Americans for what they consume, further growing the police state, as well as the Prison Industrial Complex, and profiting off of it! Yeah, that's REEEALLLY MORAL FINN!!! So much for that "Land of the Free" BS that we've been spoon fed all of our lives?
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Heroin or meth addicts??? Well, now maybe you'd have something there.
So much for that "Land of the Free" BS that we've been spoon fed all of our lives?