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"Obama to announce free 2 year community college education for all"
Wow, that's super nice. The man never ceases to amaze me. I'd like to thank all the CC employees for donating their time. Not to mention the text book companies and so on. Do we get free housing too? It would be so much easier to study without the kids and the dog. Please tell me we'll get free parking and meal tickets. I think I'll get several degrees - Auto repair, plumbing, electrical and hair dressing.
How about transportation, babysitter while in class not to mention study time. But a liberal said that was a non-issue. Liberals are already setting themselves up for failure if they don't think these are issues.
Then again with such a low bar, C+ to keep our tax dollar coming. Just think about the skills these people will have when you go to the hospital and a nurse is caring for you. This will make lawyers richer.
How about transportation, babysitter while in class not to mention study time.
Isn't the solution obvious? They'll just need more money. That's always the liberal solution. Not enough money? Just take more.
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Originally Posted by petch751
Then again with such a low bar, C+ to keep our tax dollar coming. Just think about the skills these people will have when you go to the hospital and a nurse is caring for you. This will make lawyers richer.
Oh, no. I don't think you realize that these people are all highly motivated, hard-working, genius scholars. They just haven't had a fair shot in life because the evil, greedy capitalists are holding them down simply for their own amusement. Fortunately, the Messiah was sent down from the heavens to sign new executive commandments in order to fend of the great evils of business owners.
That doesn't explain the fact that public schools only educate 1/3 of all students to even basic grade-level proficiency, while 2/3 function below grade-level.
Then change the logic and try getting more teachers to divide the 1/3 off from the 2/3s so we can focus on the problems for the 2/3s. But wait, that costs money and most states complain about the costs to do programs like that. Arizona can't do that, one because we have the Tea Party running the (state) congress and a recently governor is somewhere between libertarian and conservative republican that is suing the settlement to give money to public schools that they were denied due to budget cuts and wants to shift schooling from public schools to giving vouchers for charter schools. And what about those that are left in the public schools if we cannot get enough charter schools.
"Obama to announce free 2 year community college education for all"
Wow, that's super nice. The man never ceases to amaze me. I'd like to thank all the CC employees for donating their time. Not to mention the text book companies and so on. Do we get free housing too? It would be so much easier to study without the kids and the dog. Please tell me we'll get free parking and meal tickets. I think I'll get several degrees - Auto repair, plumbing, electrical and hair dressing.
We'll know better on February 2 but I don't think you will be able to get several degrees that way and I believe it will only last about two years as the Tennessee plan it is based on lasts two years (for high school graduates.)
No details yet. But good news..free 2 year college education for all.
Just need to keep "moderate grades" is all he's asking.
Hoo Ya..I'm going back to college
FYI..I love taking classes and would go to the local CC for a 2 year degree..maybe business, maybe accounting.
It's not limited to teens either. Obama said ALL. I wonder if that includes the illegals.
Obama proposes free community college program
The White House on Thursday announced a proposal that President Barack Obama said would make community college "free for everybody who is willing to work for it." But administration officials provided no details about the program's costs or where the money would come to pay for it.
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"It's not just for kids," Obama said. "We also have to make sure that everybody has the opportunity to constantly train themselves for better jobs, better wages, better benefits."
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Obama planned to formally announce the plan Friday at Pellissippi State Community College in Knoxville, Tennessee. He gave a preview in a videotaped message shot aboard Air Force One and posted on Facebook.
Lets see who will take advantage of this program. I would bet those who could use it will be least likely to sign up, like the welfare class.
Then change the logic and try getting more teachers to divide the 1/3 off from the 2/3s so we can focus on the problems for the 2/3s. But wait, that costs money and most states complain about the costs to do programs like that.
If you had read the professor's article, you'd have learned that it costs nothing to have the same amount of classes, but grouped by skill/ability level (instead of mixing students of all levels in each class) which provides schools the ability to more appropriately target instruction to students' educational needs. Schools that do so are much better at educating all their students. Their test scores haven't fallen over the past 5 decades, while mixed-ability class schools' test scores have dramatically fallen, largely due to the significant decline of middle and top students' test scores.
That is exactly what I mean, she is probably only there so they don't cut her welfare off. Why even bother, she doesn't want to be there. High schools are full of the same crap.
If you had read the professor's article, you'd have learned that it costs nothing to have the same amount of classes, but grouped by skill/ability level (instead of mixing students of all levels in each class) which provides schools the ability to more appropriately target instruction to students' educational needs. Schools that do so are much better at educating all their students. Their test scores haven't fallen over the past 5 decades, while mixed-ability class schools' test scores have dramatically fallen, largely due to the significant decline of middle and top students' test scores.
I'd read the article, process it, and decide the relevance if the article was posted. I scrolled back and couldn't find it. If you are going to cite a study, at least link it so we can decide to what degree it is correct if not fully correct or incorrect.
NOTE: I've heard the logic before but never heard how successful it is. I know in my school there was honors classes in middle school (I assume high school as well and I am not talking AP or college credit courses for senior year) but never the success of such a system. I wouldn't even say my school really taught the non-honors classes well. We had many teachers who weren't that good and left in a few years for somewhere else.
NOTE: I've heard the logic before but never heard how successful it is. I know in my school there was honors classes in middle school (I assume high school as well and I am not talking AP or college credit courses for senior year) but never the success of such a system. I wouldn't even say my school really taught the non-honors classes well. We had many teachers who weren't that good and left in a few years for somewhere else.
Sorting students by ability/skill level needs to start at K and continue through 12th. When students are sorted such, it's SIGNIFICANTLY easier for teachers to much more effectively target instruction to the students' needs. EVERY student progresses, instead of just the low end while the top and middle regress.
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