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Old 01-10-2015, 10:44 PM
 
Location: The Island of Misfit Toys
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If compulsory taxation of the citizenry by force is questionable at best, why did the founding fathers decide to fund the military that way?

It is interesting that when the founding fathers had to confront the problem of funding a military - something they HAD to ensure got done - they didn't just rely on voluntary donations from the citizenry.

Why would voluntary donations be any less effective than compulsory taxation?

I mean, if voluntary donations are so effective for so many other issues like poverty, why wouldn't the founding fathers chose to fund the military through voluntary donations?

Apparently, according to conservatives, voluntary donations are good enough to tackle poverty and starvation and homelessness.

Well, then why can't voluntary donations effectively fund a military?

How could voluntary donations be claimed effective for one problem but not for another?

And why would the founding fathers, in their infinite wisdom, choose compulsory taxation (so socialist) over voluntary donations?
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Old 01-10-2015, 10:48 PM
 
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If compulsory taxation of the citizenry by force is questionable at best, why did the founding fathers decide to fund the military that way?

It is interesting that when the founding fathers had to confront the problem of funding a military - something they HAD to ensure got done - they didn't just rely on voluntary donations from the citizenry.

Why would voluntary donations be any less effective than compulsory taxation?

I mean, if voluntary donations are so effective for so many other issues like poverty, why wouldn't the founding fathers chose to fund the military through voluntary donations?

Apparently, according to conservatives, voluntary donations are good enough to tackle poverty and starvation and homelessness.

Well, then why can't voluntary donations effectively fund a military?

How could voluntary donations be claimed effective for one problem but not for another?

And why would the founding fathers, in their infinite wisdom, choose compulsory taxation (so socialist) over voluntary donations?


Not sure how one would buy votes with taxes that don`t go directly to potential voters.

The problem seems to be that you have never read Article I, Section VIII of the US Constitution.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articlei
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Old 01-10-2015, 10:58 PM
 
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Because the defense of the nation as determined by elected official is top priority of the federal government. More questionable by far what right does the government have to transfer wealth from one citizen to another; that is like confiscating personal property represented by money. Taxation is for projects of general Benefit; not individuals.
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Old 01-10-2015, 11:06 PM
 
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Because the defense of the nation as determined by elected official is top priority of the federal government. More questionable by far what right does the government have to transfer wealth from one citizen to another; that is like confiscating personal property represented by money. Taxation is for projects of general Benefit; not individuals.

Well, the military is tasked in part with protecting American citizens, is it not?

So why is protecting them from death or injury by starvation any less of a priority then death or injury by warfare?
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Old 01-11-2015, 01:06 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Well, the military is tasked in part with protecting American citizens, is it not?

So why is protecting them from death or injury by starvation any less of a priority then death or injury by warfare?
Because the military benefits everyone, while welfare benefits only the recipient.
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Old 01-11-2015, 01:56 AM
 
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Because the military benefits everyone, while welfare benefits only the recipient.
The military only benefits those Americans under threat of warfare. Similarly, welfare benefits only those under threat of impovershment.
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Old 01-11-2015, 02:14 AM
 
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Well, the military is tasked in part with protecting American citizens, is it not?

So why is protecting them from death or injury by starvation any less of a priority then death or injury by warfare?


Why don`t those facing starvation enlist in the military where, and I can attest from personal experience, they will be very well fed?
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