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Old 01-12-2015, 12:17 PM
 
Location: in my imagination
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Originally Posted by ChrisFromChicago View Post
Are you deluded?


If you have a concealed carry, your more likely to be shot by your two year old in the shopping cart . .than a unarmed man is ever to be attacked by any mass shooter.

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Wish people would stop pulling statistics from out their azz about the more likely tp be hurt by your own gun blah blah blah....
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Old 01-12-2015, 12:56 PM
 
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You have no idea what you are talking about
You have no idea what you are talking about..
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Old 01-12-2015, 01:01 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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If I had to describe CD politics sub forum in one image, it would be this
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Old 01-12-2015, 01:22 PM
 
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That is the guy in WalMart. Drew his piece to defend the public from a couple of killers. Ended up dead.

You pull your piece in the restaurant and your booth gets shredded by a burst. Good for your family?

I suppose if you actually were in a store in Westgate you could have pulled your gun and gone down displaying your fierceness. I would have hid and taken the shot only up close and if I had no more option.
Wait, you're saying you would have hid and taken the shot only up close and if you had no more options.

I don't believe that. According to your logic, you'd see an argument in the Burger King and cruise in there to be a hero.

Personally, I don't want to be a "hero". I want to have a gun in case I'm in a position where I have no choice but to use it.

It would probably be for the best that you never own a gun.

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Would you like to be on a gun laden airplane with a suicidal maniac, also armed?
Since I don't believe in banning alcohol, does that mean I want to be on a bus driving on a winding mountain road with an intoxicated bus driver?

Just as I don't want to ban marijuana, but I see the need for an airline pilot not to be stoned when flying a plane, I also want some "gun free" zones, such as planes.

Do you want to ban alcohol all together or are you in favor of school bus drivers drinking while picking up kids? You must want one or the other since you appear to be an all or nothing person.

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That is a false notion, unless you have data that shows more crimes happen in gun free zones compared to non gun free zones.
This thread is clearly about mass shootings, not crime in general.

Is it necessary to point out such things to you in the future, since you seem to be a little slow on the take on this thread? Everyone else can pick up on it due to the context.
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Old 01-12-2015, 02:03 PM
 
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26 Step FIREARMS REFRESHER COURSE

1. An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.
2. A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.
3. Colt: The original point and click interface.
4. Gun control is not about guns; it's about control.
5. If guns are outlawed, can we use swords?
6. If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words.
7. "Free" men do not ask permission to bear arms.
8. If you don't know your rights you don't have any.
9. Those who trade liberty for security have neither.
10. The United States Constitution (c) 1791. All Rights reserved.
11. What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?
12. The Second Amendment is in place in case the politicians ignore the others.
13. 64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one yesterday.
14. Guns only have two enemies: rust and politicians.
15. Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety.
16. You don't shoot to kill; you shoot to stay alive.
17. 911 - government sponsored Dial-a-Prayer.
18. Assault is a behavior, not a device.
19. Criminals love gun control -- it makes their jobs safer.
20. If guns cause crime, then matches cause arson.
21. Only a government that is afraid of its citizens tries to control them.
22. You only have the rights you are willing to fight for.
23. Enforce the "gun control laws" we ALREADY have, don't make more.
24. When you remove the people's right to bear arms, you create slaves.
25. The American Revolution would never have happened with gun control.
26. "A government of the people, by the people, for the people..."

Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
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Old 01-12-2015, 02:13 PM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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Originally Posted by Mouser View Post
26 Step FIREARMS REFRESHER COURSE

1. An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.
2. A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.
3. Colt: The original point and click interface.
4. Gun control is not about guns; it's about control.
5. If guns are outlawed, can we use swords?
6. If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words.
7. "Free" men do not ask permission to bear arms.
8. If you don't know your rights you don't have any.
9. Those who trade liberty for security have neither.
10. The United States Constitution (c) 1791. All Rights reserved.
11. What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?
12. The Second Amendment is in place in case the politicians ignore the others.
13. 64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one yesterday.
14. Guns only have two enemies: rust and politicians.
15. Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety.
16. You don't shoot to kill; you shoot to stay alive.
17. 911 - government sponsored Dial-a-Prayer.
18. Assault is a behavior, not a device.
19. Criminals love gun control -- it makes their jobs safer.
20. If guns cause crime, then matches cause arson.
21. Only a government that is afraid of its citizens tries to control them.
22. You only have the rights you are willing to fight for.
23. Enforce the "gun control laws" we ALREADY have, don't make more.
24. When you remove the people's right to bear arms, you create slaves.
25. The American Revolution would never have happened with gun control.
26. "A government of the people, by the people, for the people..."

Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

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Old 01-12-2015, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Wait, you're saying you would have hid and taken the shot only up close and if you had no more options.

I don't believe that. According to your logic, you'd see an argument in the Burger King and cruise in there to be a hero.

Personally, I don't want to be a "hero". I want to have a gun in case I'm in a position where I have no choice but to use it.

It would probably be for the best that you never own a gun.



Since I don't believe in banning alcohol, does that mean I want to be on a bus driving on a winding mountain road with an intoxicated bus driver?

Just as I don't want to ban marijuana, but I see the need for an airline pilot not to be stoned when flying a plane, I also want some "gun free" zones, such as planes.

Do you want to ban alcohol all together or are you in favor of school bus drivers drinking while picking up kids? You must want one or the other since you appear to be an all or nothing person.



This thread is clearly about mass shootings, not crime in general.

Is it necessary to point out such things to you in the future, since you seem to be a little slow on the take on this thread? Everyone else can pick up on it due to the context.
So only mass shootings count? In that case we should be afraid of all white males because some white males commit mass shootings in the US.
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Old 01-12-2015, 02:20 PM
 
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It all boils down to two facts that gun control proponents have not been able to address:

(1) There is a direct relationship between restrictive gun control laws and increased crime. Almost all gun control laws have been statistically proven to be linked to increases in crime.

(2) Criminals by definition do not obey the law. Using a firearm to harm another is already illegal.
Proponents might want to spend more time thinking about the facts, and less time writing about feelings that won't fix the problem.



Liberals operate from fear, and they’ve got an entire routine about people supposedly shooting family members and not being able to stop criminals, But people who want to take away your rights under the pretense of safety and security are really just laying the groundwork for tyranny.
In the end, the only form of gun control that works is taking aim before pulling the trigger.
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Old 01-12-2015, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Since I don't believe in banning alcohol, does that mean I want to be on a bus driving on a winding mountain road with an intoxicated bus driver?
You might have a chance with an intoxicated bus driver compared to a suicidal maniac sharing not just your views, but also the airplane ride with you.
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Old 01-12-2015, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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What's with all the gun posts there are around 6, isn't there more important things.
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